Huckfinn38 Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 Are they worth it? I have experience with the Jackall Super Eruption Jr. Not a fan as the two i have fished have both bent under very little pressure. Quote
Super User bowhunter63 Posted March 17, 2024 Super User Posted March 17, 2024 I have a guy who makes mine whatever I want Quality materials and great baits. If not War Eagle Quote
JediAmoeba Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Huckfinn38 said: Are they worth it? I have experience with the Jackall Super Eruption Jr. Not a fan as the two i have fished have both bent under very little pressure. The best spinnerbaits use very fine wire - they get more vibration that way. The cheaper ones usually use heavy gauge wire 5 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted March 17, 2024 Super User Posted March 17, 2024 From what I can tell this is a super fine wire finesse bait. I have a few from Picasso and Gan Craft that are thin wired but this bait from Jackall looks even thinner. I usually have to net my fish with ones I have. I would suggest doing the same with the Jackall. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 17, 2024 Super User Posted March 17, 2024 Designed with Stanley’s precision ground tapered shaft, the Stanley Vibra Wedge Spinnerbaits start with a stout .041-gauge wire that tapers down to a thinner .018-gauge wire to provide maximum vibration with plenty of hook-setting power. 3 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted March 17, 2024 Super User Posted March 17, 2024 I like to buy quality spinnerbaits. They do not need to be overly expensive. A lot of my favorites are in the $9-12 range. Spinnerbaits are a summation of their components. A better swivel will ensure that the back blade turns at slower speeds and start up quicker. Better blades will keep their shine longer and provide a crisper feel. A good hook can save you some heartache trying to land a lunker. There are absolutely some spinnerbaits on the market that are expensive for no reason. There are also spinnerbaits that are expensive for a reason. 10 minutes ago, Catt said: Designed with Stanley’s precision ground tapered shaft, the Stanley Vibra Wedge Spinnerbaits start with a stout .041-gauge wire that tapers down to a thinner .018-gauge wire to provide maximum vibration with plenty of hook-setting power. To me, those are one of the best options under $8, currently. They aren't perfect for what they want to be but they are close. 2 Quote
Tlauz Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 If you fish where there are large toothy critters, not worth it. I loved the old Terminator Titanium Spinnerbaits. They seemed to last forever and could handle pike. Spinnerbaits built with thin wire often don't make it through a small pike encounter and often bend after a good smallmouth. I throw many different brands with good luck. I have had good luck with the Hack Attack heavy cover baits and have bought some old Terminator Titaniums from eBay (Definitely High End)! 4 Quote
greentrout Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 If I were on the water competing with the Big Boys, I would get the absolute best expensive spinnerbaits. I ain't there. Tackle Warehouse Humdingers for 4.79 do the trick very well for me. Good Fishing 2 Quote
Huckfinn38 Posted March 17, 2024 Author Posted March 17, 2024 9 hours ago, JediAmoeba said: The best spinnerbaits use very fine wire - they get more vibration that way. The cheaper ones usually use heavy gauge wire So they perform better but are also prone to messing up? I caught a pretty decent carp in the MOUTH on a super eruption jr and it was pretty much trashed. I did flip in to kayak and it flopped around pretty good so maybe that was the issue. Just a lot of money to ruin after one fish. FYI shimano is selling some Swagies on Ebay for $8.47. Buy 2 or more and get free shipping. Quote
JediAmoeba Posted March 17, 2024 Posted March 17, 2024 35 minutes ago, Huckfinn38 said: So they perform better but are also prone to messing up? I caught a pretty decent carp in the MOUTH on a super eruption jr and it was pretty much trashed. I did flip in to kayak and it flopped around pretty good so maybe that was the issue. Just a lot of money to ruin after one fish. FYI shimano is selling some Swagies on Ebay for $8.47. Buy 2 or more and get free shipping. Yeah, with thin wire you have to be careful. Like @FishTanksaid, net them! I have found some of the best spinnerbaits I have used were trashed after 4-5 good fish. Even such, after each fish they need to be bent back into place to run true. The integrity of the wire suffers after being bent a few times. 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted March 17, 2024 Super User Posted March 17, 2024 6 hours ago, Tlauz said: I loved the old Terminator Titanium Spinnerbaits. They seemed to last forever and could handle pike. By far the most durable spinnerbait ever made. Mine would last years without an issue, although I did have to change the skirt regularly because it would get shredded from pike teeth. Still have a few left too. Wish Rapala would bring them back. They’d make a killing. 6 Quote
Alex from GA Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 I throw them and sometimes catch a mudfish/bowfin and they really trash a spinnerbait. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 18, 2024 Super User Posted March 18, 2024 I'm not convinced more vibration is better. Quote
Captain Phil Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 There are two major things that make a spinnerbait work, vibration and flash. Without either, you may as well throw a swimming worm. The thinner the wire, the more vibration. The way the wire is formed is also significant. The better the hardware, the slower the blades will turn. If you are not fishing a spinnerbait slow, you are missing a lot of big fish. Blade thickness, material, plating quality and shape can also get you more fish. Can you catch bass on a $2.99 Walmart special spinnerbait? Sure! Will you catch more and bigger bass on a $10 spinnerbait? Possibly. That depends on where and how you fish it. If you don't do either right, you can throw a $50 bait spinnerbait and go fishless. 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 18, 2024 Super User Posted March 18, 2024 There was a study done showing which spinnerbait has the most flash & vibration. Stanley's Vibra Wedge easily beat every spinnerbait on the market including Hildebrandt. Humdinger is an absolute killer but the thin wire will bend easily & will break. 3 Quote
Fishingmickey Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 I prefer the River2Sea bling spinner baits. I feel like they give the most feed back/thump and blades and swivels are high quality. I like the head design on them for pulling over vegetation and wood. Not horseing or boat/kayak flipping and using a net or lipping your fish really helps on reducing the bent out of shape issue. FM 1 Quote
greentrout Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 You can still buy Hank Parkers Classic spinnerbait at Mann's. Has super thin wire. Won a classic for Mr. Parker. I still got some and use them on occasion. Good Fishing 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted March 18, 2024 Super User Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/17/2024 at 5:55 AM, Catt said: Designed with Stanley’s precision ground tapered shaft, the Stanley Vibra Wedge Spinnerbaits start with a stout .041-gauge wire that tapers down to a thinner .018-gauge wire to provide maximum vibration with plenty of hook-setting power. Found this unicorn in the basement while looking for another bait. Allen 2 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted March 18, 2024 Super User Posted March 18, 2024 2 hours ago, Catt said: There was a study done showing which spinnerbait has the most flash & vibration. Stanley's Vibra Wedge easily beat every spinnerbait on the market including Hildebrandt. Humdinger is an absolute killer but the thin wire will bend easily & will break. Is Stanley being discontinued? I went looking to check availability of them and TW has them on clearance with the Stanley website saying they are temporarily not taking orders. 1 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted March 18, 2024 Super User Posted March 18, 2024 14 hours ago, scaleface said: I'm not convinced more vibration is better. I'm not sure on this one either. Everyone knows that thinner wire produces more vibration. This may be the most quoted assumption in all of bass fishing. I do know that I feel more vibration through my rod when using thin wire spinnerbaits, with all other factors being equal. I also feel more vibration through my rod with a single Colorado blade, than I do with a tandem Colorado blade spinnerbait. My question is does this actually mean the blades are putting out more vibration into the water, or am I just feeling more vibration through my rod because the blades are able to move the thinner wire more and the single blade moves the wire more by not being inhibited by the other blade. Why would a single blade put more vibration into the water than a two blades? The blades will make a wider arc the thinner the wire because the blade over powers the wire more. This would cause the bait to transmit more vibration to the rod, but it may not cause more vibration to go out through the water. It seems to me if the wire is stiff, and doesn't allow the blades to move the wire as much, the vibration made by the blades spinning may be forced out into the water more than being wasted moving the wire. Maybe the thin wire helps because it allows the blades to impart more action to the skirt, not because it makes the blades produce more vibration. I don't have a degree in engineering, and am certainly not an expert bass angler, but I have caught lots of big bass on beefed up spinnerbaits with quality blades, especially Stanley wedge willow leaf blades. The stronger wire forms are definitely stronger, and I am not certain they hinder my fishing success. I am not saying I am certain about the amount of vibration put off by different spinnerbait wire size and I could very well be far off base. I am saying, that it doesn't hurt to question, some of the most often repeated so called facts, commonly heard or read about when it comes to bass fishing. 4 Quote
KP Duty Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 On 3/16/2024 at 10:56 PM, JediAmoeba said: The best spinnerbaits use very fine wire - they get more vibration that way. The cheaper ones usually use heavy gauge wire Yeah...ol Hank Parker preached that when I was a kid and he was plugging his Manns spinnerbait. Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted March 18, 2024 Super User Posted March 18, 2024 49 minutes ago, king fisher said: I am not saying I am certain about the amount of vibration put off by different spinnerbait wire size and I could very well be far off base. I am saying, that it doesn't hurt to question, some of the most often repeated so called facts, commonly heard or read about when it comes to bass fishing. This is where I am at as well 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 18, 2024 Super User Posted March 18, 2024 @LrgmouthShad Since Lonnie's passing the company has went down 😥 @king fisher The research Lonnie did measured both flash & vibration given off. Thin wire definitely gave off more vibration but the down side is it bends easily & eventually breaks from being straightened. Stanley tapered shaft eliminated that problem. The "Wedge" shaped blade adds to the amount of vibration. 1 Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted March 19, 2024 Super User Posted March 19, 2024 Megabass sv-3 is tough to beat out here in the clear water reservoirs I usually fish, and I imagine the Stanley would be great on the Delta and Clear Lake with the lower visibility. 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted March 19, 2024 Super User Posted March 19, 2024 I am a firm believer in lighter wires for double willow spinnerbaits. After 20 years of fishing spinnerbaits IMO lighter wire baits catch more fish period. Now when it comes to colorado baits which have more vibration I feel the wire diameter doesn't matter as much. Allen Quote 3 Quote
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