How Willing Are You To Try A New Knot.....??

[Crow Horse]

5 minutes ago, Woody B said:

But if someone who's been using the same knot for decades isn't having knot failures there is nothing to gain.   

They might have something to gain. I know as I've aged, my manual dexterity has suffered because of damage incurred while working in a construction trade and metal fabrication shop. What was once easy peasy now is more challenging. Maybe a new knot that is equal in strength (or better) might be easier to tie.

[king fisher]

I try new knots all the time.  I am happy with the old knots, but learning something new is never a bad thing.  

[GreenPig]

I'm  GTG with SDJ, ALBERTO, and simply loop occasionally. Nothing wrong with learning, I just reserve my RAM for other things.

[MIbassyaker]

I can tie three knots quickly and reliably: Improved Clinch, Palomar, & Alberto.  I will learn another knot when I become convinced these are not good enough. Which has not happened yet.

[MN Fisher]

10 hours ago, Crow Horse said:

Why bother when what you use works and you have confidence with it?

Exactly - there's five knots I use

A couple are rarely needed...Arbor (backing on spool) and Double Uni (backing to mainline)

The other three are my mainstays...FG for tying leaders pre-session, Alberto for tying leaders on the water and MK for all terminal connections.

[Bankbeater]

It depends on how much I have practiced tying the new knot and how confident I feel with my knot tying ability.

[GaryH]

Over the years I’ve  played around with different knots off the water, but I always go back to Palomar and Alberto. Never had any issues.

[Gera]

If there is a knot better and easier than a Palomar I might try it. the FG knot is great and not really hard to master so unless there is a better, easier and smaller I will stick with it. 

[KP Duty]

Not likely.  I tie a palomar 100% of the time.  Easiest + strongest IMO.

[bulldog1935]

17 hours ago, steve carpenter said:

Uni for everything. Don't use leaders. Never a problem

Uni knot was Duncan loop before bass fishers borrowed it from fly fishers.  

Double surgeon's knot for piecing leaders (triple surgeons works for braid to leader on the water).  

 

If I need a new knot, I will learn it.  This one was snell knot to stinger hook, perfection loop to stinger leader, and loop-to-loop a fixed loop to the jighead.  

 

heck, I even learned to seize double braid - Ahoy

 

My Allbright knots were shooting through snake guides 40 years ago, and I'll never need another for braid to leader.  

[Fishing_Rod]

Greetings All,

 

Frayed Knot! (just kidding and having some fun)

I am always open to consider something I've not had the opportunity to experience. I am comfortable with the capabilities provided by my current preferred knots. They are easy to fabricate in field conditions (not too complicated or difficult, don't require additional tools to fabricate), hold well under constant load or shock loads, and minimize waste.

 

When I'm knot exploring, I'll examine how difficult it is to fabricate the knot using mono. I typically use mono less than 8 lbs with a majority of 4 lb. I aspire to use it for fly fishing and conventional angling. Because I use lighter weight line I frequently retie so fabricating the knot elegantly is helpful.

 

Although, I may as time permits examine more of the nail knot type attachments for personal suitability. My reluctance is the necessity of a tool (nail, straw, knot tool, etc.) to fabricate. I do what I can to keep that simple theme. However, for the sake of education, I'll explore to expand experience and knowledge. Having a low fuss factor is preferred.

 

Just one of the reasons I explore the forums and gather helpful experience and suggestion to try. Be well and Happy Friday! Cheers!

[Motoboss]

I use the Jimmy Huston knot for braid (best knot ever for floro according the Shaw Grigsby)

Palomar for mono

and Double Uni for leader to braid

 

However I am stepping out of my comfort zone now and tying the Alberto for my leader to braid. It’s been slow and somewhat cumbersome but convinced it’s a better knot but many years of tying the same knots are hard habits to break.

 

Interesting the choices of the Pros

 

 

[throttleplate]

I am knot changing nor experamenting with any nots, i am palomar all the time and dont ever worry about it.

[Hook2Jaw]

I tie improved clinch knots to put my line on the spool and my lure on the line.  I've learned a lot of knots, but the improved clinch doesn't fail me for anything.  My leader connections are FG.  I tie Palomar knots to connect my dropshot hooks.  KISS.

[Fishing_Rod]

Greetings All,

I occasionally seek and review different knots to try out with hopes of finding something that has all the qualities I’m seeking. Easy to tie under all field conditions (windy is really tough for complex tasks). I should not have to have a special tool to fabricate the knot. It should not take too long to assemble. It should be useful for light weight mono to support both my fly fishing and general ultra lite angling. 

 

Minimize wasted tag end line. This is helpful for all types of angling as there is less wasted line. It is important for fly fishing as I want to make the most of the leader material. 

 

Along the minimized tag end line waste, the ability to gracefully cinch the knot is a plus. Having the knot cinch together at close to the end minimizes the rub, line burn, effect.

 

Recently I stumbled on what I believe is known as the Jansik special knot. It may be a variant of it. It basically starts out with a double loop through the eye of the hook similar to Berkeley trilene knot. From there it differs as you take the tag end and loop back along the one side of the inner loop created. 

 

So far in practice tying I’m running a doubled line through the eye of the hook, then using only three twists along that one side of the loop and main line. The result is a tag end that is controllable so if you are diligent in tying you don’t have much of anything to trim. Also the tag end points towards the lure so there is less to create a snag hazard. Also when using 4 pound mono the knot is very compact.

 

I did casual breaking strength tests. Both gentle pulls and harder shock loads to the knot. The results are impressive to me. I’m obtaining similar results to that of a double lined UNI with three twists and the double lined Pitzen knot with the same three twists. 

 

The knot is quicker and easier to tie than the others. So those are some of the helpful virtues. 

 

I hope to put it to the catching test soon enough. Be well and cheers!

[Mike L]

I don’t believe in change just for the sake of change and that includes knots, line, colors, sizes and certain baits for specific presentations. 

 

I use 3 knots…

Braid…Palomar

Flouro…San Diego Jam

Bottom contact…Snell

 

(don’t use leaders)

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Jar11591]

If it ain’t broke, I ain’t fixing it. The 3 knots I use all work perfectly and I have no reason to experiment. 

[MN Fisher]

^ What he said...

[T-Billy]

I'll try a new knot when I have a need. 

 Currently...

Trilene Knot for mono.

Alberto with an extra wrap through the loop at the finish, for braid to leader. 

Palomar, for braid to bass lures.

Snell, for braid to flippin rig.

Improved Uni with 9 wraps, for braid to A-rig and leaders for muskie. 

All the above have proven to be very good knots for the listed applications.

 

[dodgeguy]

On 2/29/2024 at 4:09 PM, Catt said:

Changing for the sake of change is a risk - the grass on the other side of the fence isn't always greener.

 

A Palomar Knot has never failed me, why should I change?

I'm KNOT !!!!  Catt has it right.

[Tackleholic]

Alberto and Palomar.  Only problem with a Palomar is the length of the tag end when using braid to leader;  requires changing leaders more often.

[Pat Brown]

Well I shot a man in Reno..... just to watch him die.

 

I tied my bait on with a new knot.....just to snap it off.  😂😂😂😂 

 

I actually try new knots every year.

 

I really like Miller knot, loop knot, Palomar knot, San Diego jam and double pitzen.  I also know the Alberto and double uni knot but don't do braid to leader much. This year I will probably try the old FG knot just for fun on a spinning rod but so far haven't messed with it.

 

Overall my most used knots are Palomar with braid (buzzbait or frog) and Double san Diego Jam on mono.

 

The Miller knot is phenomenal when you want a super finesse presentation and don't want the knot visible at all.

 

 

[Skunkmaster-k]

2 hours ago, Pat Brown said:

Well I shot a man in Reno..... just to watch him die.

 

I tied my bait on with a new knot.....just to snap it off.  😂😂😂😂 

 

I actually try new knots every year.

 

I really like Miller knot, loop knot, Palomar knot, San Diego jam and double pitzen.  I also know the Alberto and double uni knot but don't do braid to leader much. This year I will probably try the old FG knot just for fun on a spinning rod but so far haven't messed with it.

 

Overall my most used knots are Palomar with braid (buzzbait or frog) and Double san Diego Jam on mono.

 

The Miller knot is phenomenal when you want a super finesse presentation and don't want the knot visible at all.

 

 

You shot a guy ? I’m calling the FBI. 

[MediumMouthBass]

Im very willing to try new knots, just not for fishing. Knots are something i think are very important to learn and keep learning.

But for fishing i only need the San Diego Jam and Snell, i did Palomar knots only for several years but now i just dont like it, had it break to many times and switched to SDJ and am very happy with it.

I dont have to put a huge loop around the bait, wet the line, make sure not the burn the line when synching down, and its much easier and quicker too. (And the Snell knot is only for flipping)

[papajoe222]

The only knot I've learned in the last decade is a snell knot and the only reason I first tried it is the advantage it offers for improved hook-ups.  Otherwise it's the Pitzen (single and double) and Palomar.