Non-ethanol gas price WAY higher

[Susky River Rat]

14 hours ago, steves191145 said:

Ethanol free 90 is the same price as 10% ethanol premium 92 here.

Same here within a couple cents at least 

[Capt Ed]

If you're engine doesn't call for high octane gas and you're not experiencing engine knock, all you're doing is spending more money than necessary.  

[gim]

12 hours ago, Big_Easy_Bassin said:

If your boat sits up for 6 months at a time I’d say you need to fish more

Haha.  If only that were possible with the lakes covered in ice and the season closed...

[TOXIC]

Now that I am in the non ethanol camp for the boat I use a site to check.  Www.puregas.org

[TnRiver46]

12 hours ago, airshot said:

Been using E10 since it came out, just add a shot of stabil or seafoam and not one issue in all these years !

My roto tiller has E10 over a year old and still runs fine ! My snoblower has last winters gas in it and started right up!  Adding a shot of stabil is by far cheaper than buying non E fuel !!!  I haven't had to loose one minutes sleep over E fuels and no issues in many many years !!  Watch where you buy your fuel !!

Your money spend or waste it as you please!!

With pure gas only 40 cents more per gallon, the price is about the same as buying stabil/seafoam/startron. I’ve done both

[gim]

Honestly, I could care less about the price comparison between buying ethanol free gas and buying/adding a fuel stabilizer.  I don't buy much of it anyways so the complete elimination of using a fuel stabilizer by using ethanol free gasoline in my seasonal engines is a moot point.  I'd personally just rather not even deal with the added step.  My lawn mower and snow blower have the capacity of about 1 whole gallon, combined.  My boat is more but I only fill that thing up twice a season.

 

If you are buying a lot of ethanol free gasoline then I could see the idea behind using regular gasoline with ethanol, and then adding a fuel stabilizer.  That's assuming your engine is sitting around for months on end though too.

[TnRiver46]

Also I got startron all over my hands right before I went fishing every time measuring it in the tiny bottle cap. Didn’t like that, stuff is slicker than a minner’s ______! 

[Big_Easy_Bassin]

5 hours ago, gimruis said:

Haha.  If only that were possible with the lakes covered in ice and the season closed...

Yeah I def don’t have to worry about that down here in South Louisiana. It’s never “too cold to go fishing” here. Might have to bundle up if temps drop into the 20s, but I have enough cold weather gear to still get out there lol. Lakes up north are iced over 6 months out of the year? I didn’t realize it was that bad. 

[gim]

13 minutes ago, Big_Easy_Bassin said:

Lakes up north are iced over 6 months out of the year? I didn’t realize it was that bad. 

Depends on the lake and what part of the state we're talking here.  Big difference between northern MN near Canada and southern MN near Iowa.

 

But yes, there is usually ice on the lakes by December and it doesn't melt until April (so at least 4 months).  This year is not even close to that.  We still had open water the first week of January, something I've not seen since I've lived here (1991).

[airshot]

6 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

With pure gas only 40 cents more per gallon, the price is about the same as buying stabil/seafoam/startron. I’ve done both

Not in my area....it averages between 60 cents up to one dollar per gallon...seafoam/ stabiil is about 10 bucks or less, my fuel tank is 18 gallons...at .80 cents per gallon that is 14 bucks more for non E, for ten bucks I can treat 4 tanks of fuel....definetly not worth the cost. 

[Catt]

I don't think we've ever been over $3 a gallon.

[Bankc]

On 2/25/2024 at 6:46 PM, TnRiver46 said:

I gassed up today. E-10 was 2.99 and 100% gas was 3.39. It’s pretty much always a 40 cent difference per gallon at that station. 

 

Other stations do jack up the pure stuff a lot more 

That's usually about what I see here too.

 

Though, now I'm starting to wonder...  over $4.00 a gallon for ethanol free in other states?  How much does a gas tanker truck cost to rent? 

[TnRiver46]

7 hours ago, Catt said:

I don't think we've ever been over $3 a gallon.

Youre close to the source 😂 

[Big Hands]

Regular E-10 is at least $4.39 here in Idiotville.

That's about as low as I remember in the past three or four years.

 

E-Free is apparently contraband now.

10 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

You're close to the source 😂 

 

If only that truly made a difference here.

[TnRiver46]

Regular ole gas 2.79 currently but if yall keep moving here from cali it may go up like everything else……..

 

 

[airshot]

On 2/26/2024 at 7:46 AM, Capt Ed said:

If you're engine doesn't call for high octane gas and you're not experiencing engine knock, all you're doing is spending more money than necessary.  

And might even loose performance !!  Many engine mfgrs have tested fuels with higher/ lower octane ratings.  The conclusions have shown that using higher octane fuel than the engine was designed for actually lost power/ performance.  At best, no increase in power or performance was ever gained in all the tests, by going to a higher octane fuel.  Your money to spend as you please.

[TOXIC]

Now that I’m switching to non ethanol, it would be nice to find it in the proper octane level.  When I was using e-10 a very reputable Yamaha mechanic advised me that since my 2 stroke has no knock sensor and cannot adjust timing, that I should run mid-grade fuel.  I do notice that a lot of non ethanol fuel is higher octane.  Higher octane is not better for my motor.  

[TnRiver46]

I think that’s why the gas station I mentioned above is only $.40 more per gallon, it’s 87. The ones where it’s 91 cost like a dollar more . I have used that in my push mower in a pinch and had dreams of throwing grass clippings 50 yards out the chute but it didn’t happen…..

[volzfan59]

We use ethanol fuel on our car and truck only. My boat has never, will never, have ethanol fuel. 

[Capt Steve]

I've been using 87 ethanol in my outboard motors for years without any issues but they are run 1-3 times a week. I think sitting unused with ethanol in it is very bad. I never use it in weed eater, chain saw or any engine that may sit up for extended periods of time.  I've already replaced more carburetors than I care to. 
 

[airshot]

What every is missing is the fact that "gumout" came out in the 50's long before E fuels were even thought of.  Most every gas engine mfgr has recomended stabilizing or treating with something like gumout for decades. Yes, E fuels can degrade faster, but no matter what gas you buy, it should be treated for long term storage as recomended by most mfgrs !!  It is highly recomended to use a stabilizer anyway so if you choose to spend the extra on non E, your call, but your motor mfgr still recomends stabilizing the fuel for storage. As a young apprentice at the local boat repair shop in the 60's, it was my job to clean the gunk out of carbs on motors brought into the shop after winter storage.  Lots if gunk buildup as very few used the gumout or other fuel cleaners.  Same issue today, your 15K fancy outboard warranty will not cover fuel system gunk if the fuel gas not been stabilized, no matter which type of fuel you buy !!

[A-Jay]

45 minutes ago, airshot said:

What every is missing 

No one's missing anything.

Just tired of reading about it

A-Jay

[Woody B]

Around here E free gas runs ~50 cents a gallon or so more than regular e-10 87 octane.  However as you get closer to a lake the price goes up.   E10- 87 here is $2.79 to $3.09 depending on location.  E-Free run from $3.30ish to as much as $6 per gallon near the lake.  Several of the QT's around here have E-Free for a good price.   

Even if you run ethanol free, if you boat sits quite a bit I still recommend Sta-bil.   

 

I run E-10, but I fish/burn gas ever week, and my engine is compatible.  Some engines, and some situations require ethanol free gas.  There is no one size fits all gas formula and it's certainly nothing to argue about.   There's also no harm in using ethanol free even if your engine doesn't require it. 

 

[TnRiver46]

This is, quite literally, a picture of the back of my boat 

[airshot]

Then I wouldn't use it to keep the warranty in place. 

4 hours ago, Woody B said:

Around here E free gas runs ~50 cents a gallon or so more than regular e-10 87 octane.  However as you get closer to a lake the price goes up.   E10- 87 here is $2.79 to $3.09 depending on location.  E-Free run from $3.30ish to as much as $6 per gallon near the lake.  Several of the QT's around here have E-Free for a good price.   

Even if you run ethanol free, if you boat sits quite a bit I still recommend Sta-bil.   

 

I run E-10, but I fish/burn gas ever week, and my engine is compatible.  Some engines, and some situations require ethanol free gas.  There is no one size fits all gas formula and it's certainly nothing to argue about.   There's also no harm in using ethanol free even if your engine doesn't require it. 

 

Make sure all your rubber fuel lines are E compatible, that is where issues arrise.  I contacted Mercury about my 1983 3.0, about using E10 fuels, according to them as long as all fuel hoses were compatible, the engine itself doesn't care.