!What’s your absolutely favorite high end flipping stick ?

[FryDog62]

14 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

St Croix USE to list the rod weight....now they don't. Why remove a piece of data that some of us would like to have?

My guess is because although SC makes excellent rods, they are some of the heaviest and that data didn't work in their favor... 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

34 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

I wish rod weights were accessible on websites like reel weights are. Some companies like ALX and Kistler list the weights on some of their stuff, but I've found even some of those were inaccurate. 

Could be because the specs on blanks are nominal and there’s a tolerance window. 

[NorthernBasser]

3 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Could be because the specs on blanks are nominal and there’s a tolerance window. 

Could be right. I know I've had some exact models where their weight wasn't identical (heck, even extra epoxy on one rod would make a difference, right?). But even if they listed an average weight or something, that would be nice.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Just now, NorthernBasser said:

Could be right. I know I've had some exact models where their weight wasn't identical (heck, even extra epoxy on one rod would make a difference, right?). But even if they listed an average weight or something, that would be nice.

Yes any advertised wt should be  with a qualifying statement 

[MN Fisher]

18 minutes ago, FryDog62 said:

My guess is because although SC makes excellent rods, they are some of the heaviest and that data didn't work in their favor... 

The SCs I got are lighter than my Dobyns and Okuma in the same price bracket....

[FryDog62]

3 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

The SCs I got are lighter than my Dobyns and Okuma in the same price bracket....

Probably true, I know my Dobyns are similar weight but balance soooo much better.  I think a lot of people find many models of SC to be very tip-heavy..

[Bandersnatch]

1 hour ago, NorthernBasser said:

Yeah, I don't get why companies don't give us this info. Well, I can see why some may not want it out there if their rods are really heavy. 

 

I don't know if you saw my post last night about Thunderhawk rods. After I posted I sent them a Facebook message asking what the weight was on a few of their rods. He/she said he didn't know offhand but that they're perfectly balanced. How do you not know this info if you're the rod builder?

 

They did get back to me right away and gave me a 20% off code, so that was nice. 

lol this is a classic example of now wanting to give a rod weight. Perfectly balanced is important but still give the rod weight…

[softwateronly]

On 1/30/2024 at 10:25 AM, Bandersnatch said:

Do you have a weight on the 7’6xh?

 

The PA 7'6XH is 4.9oz.  The internet says the phenix feather 7'3XH is 3.8oz, if lightness is premium the 7'7XH feather has to be near the top of the list.

 

scott

[Born 2 fish]

It’s not high end but my favorite is my original Daiwa Tatula 7’6 flip.

[NorthernBasser]

On 1/31/2024 at 1:31 PM, softwateronly said:

 

The PA 7'6XH is 4.9oz.  The internet says the phenix feather 7'3XH is 3.8oz, if lightness is premium the 7'7XH feather has to be near the top of the list.

 

scott

@Bandersnatch I actually got the 7'7 XH Feather today. It weighs 4.04 oz. Lure rating is 1/2 oz-3 oz. That is just mind-blowing light. Lighter than my 7'1 MH Helium (4.11 oz), which everyone knows are super light rods. My 6'11 M+ Poison Adrena weighs 3.76 oz. I don't know how they do it, especially at that price point. 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

On 1/31/2024 at 10:52 AM, NorthernBasser said:

Yeah, I don't get why companies don't give us this info. Well, I can see why some may not want it out there if their rods are really heavy. 

 

I brought that up last year to a guy whos involved with SC, among other concerns.  Allegedly SC sees it as a liability for 2 reasons that can hurt sales.  1 being the weights arent super accurate, which is obvious as it's impossible to mass produce rods at the same weight, but some consumers don't understand that.  The other reason was that their higher end rods, like LTBs jump up in weight compared to the lower mid PP rods like Victory and the older Mojo's.  Supposedly they were concerned that could cause newer customers to gravitate to lower PP lines instead of Legends.  Context is important, because he made it clear that SC is aware that their rods caught a bad rap for poor balance, especially in the circles of FW bass anglers.  

[TnRiver46]

I haven’t had a flipping stick in years, definitely not a high end one. The one I had last I believe was a lightning rod, but it was 7’6” and stout 

 

we don’t have grass so really it’s for Carolina rigs or tossing into laydowns, don’t think I’ll ever need a sinker over 3/4 or 1 oz 

 

I have never punched so that’s probably why I haven’t bought one but I’d like to 

[dodgeguy]

On 1/30/2024 at 9:48 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

7’6” and up give you better reach when actually Flipping and they move a lot of line on the hookset. You can get a hook in them and moving up before they bury themselves. Extra important when punching the slop. 

This is true but as the fight goes on the longer rod works against you. 1 lb at the end of 10 ft is 10 ft lbs at your wrist.  1 lb at 12ft  is 12 ft lbs. Put 6 lbs on and it becomes 60 lbs ft of torque. At 12 feet it would be 72. This is why 1 use 7-3

[r83srock]

21 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

This is true but as the fight goes on the longer rod works against you. 1 lb at the end of 10 ft is 10 ft lbs at your wrist.  1 lb at 12ft  is 12 ft lbs. Put 6 lbs on and it becomes 60 lbs ft of torque. At 12 feet it would be 72. This is why 1 use 7-3

This makes so much sense. Outside of preference I think there’s trade offs in regards to power.

[Bandersnatch]

On 2/15/2024 at 4:12 PM, NorthernBasser said:

@Bandersnatch I actually got the 7'7 XH Feather today. It weighs 4.04 oz. Lure rating is 1/2 oz-3 oz. That is just mind-blowing light. Lighter than my 7'1 MH Helium (4.11 oz), which everyone knows are super light rods. My 6'11 M+ Poison Adrena weighs 3.76 oz. I don't know how they do it, especially at that price point. 

Fished it yet? 

[NorthernBasser]

13 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

Fished it yet? 

Nope. See: location. 😢