Super User ChrisD46 Posted January 29, 2024 Super User Posted January 29, 2024 I love how easy it is to rig a soft plastic bait using a EWG hook (as compared to an offset round bend hook) . Conversely , the knock on the EWG hook are worse hook ups due to the hook tip being in line with the hook eye (as compared to the offset round bend hook) . *Does any EWG hook maker have a EWG design where the hook point is slightly higher than the hook eye (or feature some other design improvement) to allow for better hook ups with an EWG hook ? 1 Quote
RipzLipz Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 @ChrisD46 Looks like the Owner Haymaker fits your description: However, you might also consider taking needle nose pliers & slightly bending the hook point out, similar to what some anglers do with some hollow bodied frogs but that may result in more snagging of vegetation, etc. 4 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 29, 2024 Global Moderator Posted January 29, 2024 I only use Trokar hooks for all plastic presentations and have for years. TK 110 EWG for light to moderate cover TK 120 Mag for moderate to heavy cover. Mike 1 Quote
rangerjockey Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 The gammy G finesse hybrid is really good and I'm not a fan of EWGs. 5 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 29, 2024 Super User Posted January 29, 2024 ^^^ X2 ~ My hook of choice when throwing the swinghead for brown bass, with Rage Bug trailers, has been the straight up regular wire Gamakatsu 4/0 EWG. Works well, still lose a few but by & large this one did most of the heavy lifting. The balance between being stout enough to get the fish to the net and still be thin enough to enable long distance hooksets with 15 lb FC is a fine one. I’ve had a few of these ‘open’ just a bit, which never makes me happy. However there’s a new kid in town which may take this ones place. It’s early in my R&D but the Gamakatsu G-Finesse Hybrid Worm has massive potential IMO. At 4/0 maintains the right shape & size BUT carries just a little bit more horsepower on the hookset. So there's very little IMO, that's finesse going on there. Time will tell but until it proves me wrong, I’m going with it. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Gamakatsu_G-Finesse_Hybrid_Worm_Hook_4pk/descpage-GFHW.html A-Jay 5 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 29, 2024 Super User Posted January 29, 2024 VMC RedLine Series Hybrid 3 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted January 29, 2024 Super User Posted January 29, 2024 It use to be a 4/0 Gamakatsu but I have been impressed with Ryugi's Infini and it has become my go to hook. I have had really no hook up issues or lost fish with either one. I also like the Owner Haymaker and the Gamakatsu Hybrid but the best quality and bang for the buck has been the Ryugi. 2 Quote
NavyToad Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 Speaking of hooks, Omnia currently has 25% off all terminal tackle. 3 Quote
rgasr63 Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 I use 2 brands of ewg hooks the Vmc Ike ewgs for my light rigs. If it is a heavier t rig or I think it is thicker cover I use the owner ewg+ never have any troubles Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted January 29, 2024 Super User Posted January 29, 2024 The gamakatsu ewg is my standard for plastics. I carry 1/0 to 5/0. For swim baits I go to owner but for general ewg I don’t have any reason to switch from gamakatsu. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted January 30, 2024 Author Super User Posted January 30, 2024 8 hours ago, Catt said: VMC RedLine Series Hybrid Looks good - more gap ! 1 Quote
RRocket Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 10 hours ago, A-Jay said: ^^^ X2 ~ My hook of choice when throwing the swinghead for brown bass, with Rage Bug trailers, has been the straight up regular wire Gamakatsu 4/0 EWG. Works well, still lose a few but by & large this one did most of the heavy lifting. The balance between being stout enough to get the fish to the net and still be thin enough to enable long distance hooksets with 15 lb FC is a fine one. I’ve had a few of these ‘open’ just a bit, which never makes me happy. However there’s a new kid in town which may take this ones place. It’s early in my R&D but the Gamakatsu G-Finesse Hybrid Worm has massive potential IMO. At 4/0 maintains the right shape & size BUT carries just a little bit more horsepower on the hookset. So there's very little IMO, that's finesse going on there. Time will tell but until it proves me wrong, I’m going with it. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Gamakatsu_G-Finesse_Hybrid_Worm_Hook_4pk/descpage-GFHW.html A-Jay Have used these a ton in the 1/0 and 2/0 size. Was my go to. Can confirm. Excellent hook. 1 1 Quote
JN94 Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 VMC has the most hook gap/bite out of the box in my experience. I've seen it across a few different of their lines. But you can always take a pair of pliers and bend any points out if fishing one where there isn't enough gap. I agree with you, it's all about the angle of the point on EWGs. I've been happy with all of the VMCs I've fished 2 Quote
softwateronly Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 21 hours ago, rangerjockey said: The gammy G finesse hybrid is really good and I'm not a fan of EWGs. 21 hours ago, A-Jay said: ^^^ X2 ~ It’s early in my R&D but the Gamakatsu G-Finesse Hybrid Worm has massive potential IMO. At 4/0 maintains the right shape & size BUT carries just a little bit more horsepower on the hookset. So there's very little IMO, that's finesse going on there. Time will tell but until it proves me wrong, I’m going with it. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Gamakatsu_G-Finesse_Hybrid_Worm_Hook_4pk/descpage-GFHW.html A-Jay 11 hours ago, RRocket said: Have used these a ton in the 1/0 and 2/0 size. Was my go to. Can confirm. Excellent hook. X4. This is the first hook that has stood head and shoulders above other reputable companies to me. I barely want to type it, been perfect so far over the last 1.5years. I grabbed some ryugi infiniti and decoy kg hooks for 1/0 and smaller, but haven't fished them yet. The gamakatsu g-finesse run slightly larger. scott 1 Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted January 30, 2024 Author Super User Posted January 30, 2024 I use the Gamma regular and Super Line EWG hooks - although great quality , they don’t have a lot of hook gap (as compared to some of the newer EWG hook designs) . Quote
KP Duty Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 My fav is the Gammy G Lock... https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Gamakatsu_Offset_G-Lock_Worm_Hooks/descpage-GOGL.html?from=gpmax&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA2eKtBhDcARIsAEGTG420vxFErPggTQmw9kaNV55Dilr2Us4eLwcJtdE8kK1nhfg5f_Bz2mMaAopvEALw_wcB 2 Quote
RRocket Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 1 hour ago, softwateronly said: I grabbed some ryugi infiniti and decoy kg hooks for 1/0 and smaller, but haven't fished them yet. I use the Decoy KG Ringed EWG hooks often now and have also used the Infini Hobbit for downsized EWG purposes. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted January 30, 2024 Super User Posted January 30, 2024 One more vote for the Gammy G finesse. Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted January 31, 2024 Author Super User Posted January 31, 2024 On 1/29/2024 at 11:06 AM, rangerjockey said: The gammy G finesse hybrid is really good and I'm not a fan of EWGs. This ismore in the direction of what I'm looking for . On 1/29/2024 at 11:35 AM, Catt said: VMC RedLine Series Hybrid Now this is a good looking EWG hook with a bit more gap to it - however the Redline series hooks are pretty pricey . As an experiment , I will try the close sibling VMC Ike EWG Heavy Duty Wide Gap hooks (*Application is for Super Flukes) : https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/VMC_Ike_Approved_Heavy_Duty_Wide_Gap_Hook/descpage-MVCHWGH.html Quote
RipzLipz Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 @ChrisD46 Please don’t take offense in me asking, but now that I see the whole picture after you’ve supplied additional info (using a fluke), are you Texposing the hook point & still having hookup issues? Other options might include using a hook with a centering pin/screw lock in the eye. Could also be other factors besides hook causing missed fish. My opinion only, you get what you pay for in most hooks & lines. Same subject covered here about a year ago: Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted February 2, 2024 Global Moderator Posted February 2, 2024 Fine, I'll make everyone mad, I use Eagle Claw Magworm EWG's. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Eagle_Claw_Magworm_Wide_Gap_Worm_Hook_5pk/descpage-ECMW.html 1 3 Quote
bottom_dollar Posted February 5, 2024 Posted February 5, 2024 Owner All Purpose soft bait in 5/0. Cheaper than the haymaker and more gap than most EWG. Quote
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