Super User Catt Posted January 16, 2024 Super User Posted January 16, 2024 @MN Fisher & @A-Jay y'all ever stared at a screen? I've spent 100s of hours idling Toledo Bend staring at everything from a Fish-Lo-K-Tor to Mega 360. Staring at screens is part of structure fishing. 4 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 16, 2024 Super User Posted January 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, Catt said: @MN Fisher y'all ever stared at a screen? Once I reach a 'promising' looking area on the 25hp, the TM goes down and my eyes flick between three things. Where I'm going - so I don't run into anything The screen of my Striker - so I can see what the bottom is doing/find weedlines/etc Where I cast my lure - so I'm 'on target'. 5 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 16, 2024 Super User Posted January 16, 2024 21 minutes ago, Catt said: @MN Fisher & @A-Jay y'all ever stared at a screen? I've spent 100s of hours idling Toledo Bend staring at everything from a Fish-Lo-K-Tor to Mega 360. Staring at screens is part of structure fishing. I do ~ Dedicated RECON & 'Fishing' are two separate deals for me. When 'fishing most use happens 'on the way' or as I approach my 'spot'. I'm never looking for fish, sometimes bait, but mostly I'm using the mapping to position my rig. Different/changing conditions dictate what that looks like each time. Once I'm where I want to be, unless I need it to stay there or re-position, I'm fishing. In some shallow water deals, I'll turn it to stand-by; especially if & when I can lock down with the Talons. When I'm fishing a large area, with isolated cover I'm constantly using the 360 to present baits to 'the edges' of the cover. But it could be in 5 feet or 25 feet. So when everything goes well on those trips, I'll be using the net & scale while getting that neck cramp. Off shore Night ops are an entirely different animal - and you know what that's about. A-Jay 3 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 I fish a shallow river and still use. I feel lost without it. 3 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 16, 2024 Global Moderator Posted January 16, 2024 @Susky River Rat, I feel lost when I am looking at them haha. I have a nice lowrance at the console with excellent detail , down and sidescan. I can see all kinds of cool stuff and fish on it, only problem is that never really translates to meat in the box. Maybe a time or two but I catch a lot more fish just going to where I know they will be and fishing around. I don’t have a depth finder up by the trolling motor where I fish from I do have a few extra smaller ones I should put on the front , maybe I’ll do that tomorrow since we are snowed in 3 Quote
GRiver Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 I’ve got an old hummingbird,($99.00), It’s got temp and depth, and supposedly fish blips. It’s over ten years old, but works for me. I use the depth feature the mostly to find a few holes, when I’m after strippers. When I’m Hawg hunting …… troller motor off and raised, electronics off and pole in. I agree with @ol'crickety whole heartedly, think on what I would’ve missed looking a a screen. 2 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 @TnRiver46 I don’t target specific fish. I use it for depth and to find areas underneath the water that would hold fish. I have trolled for musky and fished off bait balls using sonar. Bass it’s more for just finding structure/cover 3 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 16, 2024 Global Moderator Posted January 16, 2024 Even the structure and Rock piles and other cool stuff I find seem to be unproductive compared to just working down a ledge or cliff Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 16, 2024 Author Super User Posted January 16, 2024 10 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Even the structure and Rock piles and other cool stuff I find seem to be unproductive compared to just working down a ledge or cliff Are they tucked under the overhang of the cliff? I used to catch muskies in that position. Quote
Woody B Posted January 16, 2024 Posted January 16, 2024 I don't spend enough dedicated RECON time but I'm getting there. At times I've had a "knack" picking somewhere on a map or just riding around that looks "fishy" Some of these areas produced Bass, some didn't. A few minutes staring at a screen has helped my understand why some areas held Bass while other areas I thought was similar didn't. When I MAKE myself use my electronics the way they're designed to be used I catch more Bass. 3 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 16, 2024 Global Moderator Posted January 16, 2024 5 minutes ago, ol'crickety said: Are they tucked under the overhang of the cliff? I used to catch muskies in that position. Seems like lots of them are. I just fish everywhere I can and try to never skip vertical stuff 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 7 hours ago, Catt said: Yes Sir! 😉 Shallow water marshes, swamps, bayous, & rivers; no electronics nessary. On Toledo Bend I use a Hummingbird Helix 5 G2. I ain't even looking for fish, I'm looking for structure. I never idle over the structure I intend on fishing. Agree except Rivers some are big water. Where the OP fishes can’t see any reason for sonar, GPS might come in handy on a iPhone. Tom 2 1 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted January 17, 2024 Posted January 17, 2024 @TnRiver46 it not a matter of finding one thing interesting. It’s what’s there what are the other conditions with current, pinch point, etc. there is some spots I won’t touch when it’s low. Some spots I won’t touch when it’s high. With river a lot of this stuff is timing. Sometimes I wish I’d keep a log like I did when I musky fished all the time. 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 17, 2024 Global Moderator Posted January 17, 2024 21 hours ago, gimruis said: . I am not throttling down without knowing the depth is deep enough for it. That’s a good way to ruin a prop or lower unit. GPS is a must on big water. You’d get lost without it. And 500 years ago our ancestors set out to cross the ocean in a wooden boat with a spyglass in search of spices to make their food taste a little better. They weren’t quite so worried 2 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 17, 2024 Author Super User Posted January 17, 2024 31 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: And 500 years ago our ancestors set out to cross the ocean in a wooden boat with a spyglass in search of spices to make their food taste a little better. They weren’t quite so worried Let me edit that just a pinch: And 500 years ago, our ancestors set out to cross the ocean in wooden ships with a spyglass, sextant, compass, and maps in search of spices to become rich. They were worried because many of them died in the attempt, but the promise of wealth was the real siren, i.e. the monster that lures you to danger, of the sea. 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 45 minutes ago, ol'crickety said: Let me edit that just a pinch: And almost 500 years before that, my ancestors set out to see if they could find new lands to colonize...after setting up colonies on Iceland and Greenland...and they found Vinland. 1 1 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 @MN Fisher I hope Erik fished that point. 🙂 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said: I hope Erik fished that point. It actually would have been Leif - Erik's son - as he was the one to do the Vinland excursions. 3 Quote
Super User gim Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said: And 500 years ago our ancestors set out to cross the ocean in a wooden boat with a spyglass in search of spices to make their food taste a little better. They weren’t quite so worried Don't care. I value my prop and lower unit too much to go blasting like a bat out of hell plowing into a shallow unmarked reef of rocks. Maybe some people don't. Its their equipment, they can do what they want to. I'll play it safe. Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 17, 2024 Author Super User Posted January 17, 2024 26 minutes ago, gimruis said: Don't care. I value my prop and lower unit too much to go blasting like a bat out of hell plowing into a shallow unmarked reef of rocks. Maybe some people don't. Its their equipment, they can do what they want to. I'll play it safe. Minnesota has rocky lakes. It's not quite as glaciated as northwestern Ontario where there's enough topsoil to grow about two ears of corn, but it's rocky enough to shear scores of lower units every year. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 17, 2024 Global Moderator Posted January 17, 2024 Leif was dragging live Blue runners the whole way on a 18/0 circle hook 5 Quote
Super User gim Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 28 minutes ago, ol'crickety said: Minnesota has rocky lakes. We've had drought the last 4 of 5 years now too, that isn't helping with lower water levels. The prop shop nearest my house has an endless supply of customers from May - October. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, gimruis said: We've had drought the last 4 of 5 years now too, that isn't helping with lower water levels. The prop shop nearest my house has an endless supply of customers from May - October. Probably from running at high speed, following old waypoints and not re-setting the lake depth adjustment on their unit...flying blind. 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted January 17, 2024 Super User Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, MN Fisher said: Probably from running at high speed, following old waypoints and not re-setting the lake depth adjustment on their unit...flying blind. Honestly I think a lot of them are recreational boats too. My Father goes to Ontario every June for a family fishing trip and he comes back with a dinged up prop every time. Nothing is marked there, visually or on his GPS. 1 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 17, 2024 Author Super User Posted January 17, 2024 1 minute ago, gimruis said: Honestly I think a lot of them are recreational boats too. My Father goes to Ontario every June for a family fishing trip and he comes back with a dinged up prop every time. Nothing is marked there, visually or on his GPS. That's the Ontario I know. 1 1 Quote
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