Daiwa Tatula 100 and 150 noise

[PTasker15]

I recently received a Daiwa Tatula 100 6.3 and a Daiwa Tatula 150 7 something. Before I even looked at these, I heard that Daiwa tends to come dry. So when I got them, I:

 

Oiled the spool shaft, sideplate/spool tension/main shaft bearings

Greased the worm gear, main gear, pinion gear, and the tiny gears underneath them.

 

Put them back together, and have some tiny issues.

 

Tat 100 is just a little on the grindy side. Maybe the grease needs more time to work in, who knows. Just makes a buzzing feeling when retrieving. Similar to a reel that has been used a ton. Not much of a bother though.

 

Tat 150 is where my biggest issue is. No buzzing, but it emits a higher pitched scraping noise, even with spool tension done correctly. Its very faint and not constant, but will screech for a second and then disappear for a few turns of the handle.

 

I know that tats are not the smoothest or quietest reels on the market, and I can deal with that, but don't want to break something.

[waymont]

The 150 reels are smooth and silent. The older Tat 100 is a somewhat noisy reel. Maybe the new 100 is improved.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Maybe expectations need to be tempered. The Tatula is a workhorse reel. Not all sound is “noise” and some can be expected especially after some use. Just because you can’t see squeeze out doesn’t necessarily mean a reel is “dry” either. I’m going to reach out and see what Daiwa has to say on this. I wouldn’t recommend anyone opening a brand new reel. If it can’t be used out of the box return it. 

[PTasker15]

51 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Maybe expectations need to be tempered. The Tatula is a workhorse reel. Not all sound is “noise” and some can be expected especially after some use. Just because you can’t see squeeze out doesn’t necessarily mean a reel is “dry” either. I’m going to reach out and see what Daiwa has to say on this. I wouldn’t recommend anyone opening a brand new reel. If it can’t be used out of the box return it. 

That's how every Daiwa I've ever owned has come. Exceptionally dry, especially gear wise. Adding. A touch of grease to gears always helps and never has issues onwards. I took some advice from phish and now it has no issues. Just added some oil to places I didn't know were there, and cleaned up some stuff. Works with no issues now.

1 minute ago, PTasker15 said:

That's how every Daiwa I've ever owned has come. Exceptionally dry, especially gear wise. Adding. A touch of grease to gears always helps and never has issues onwards. I took some advice from phish and now it has no issues. Just added some oil to places I didn't know were there, and cleaned up some stuff. Works with no issues now.

Also, I understand Daiwa being a bit noisy, so the point it is at right now is perfectly fine. While there is a tiny gear noise, I attribute that to being normal. Everything works normally now and is smooth.

[MickD]

2 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I wouldn’t recommend anyone opening a brand new reel. If it can’t be used out of the box return it. 

Exactly!  I have never opened a new reel, and I have never had a problem with a new (or old) reel.  When I lube them I only go in one "layer," to minimize the risk of screwing it up.  If a reel has been dunked or is really old and in need of complete work I send it to an expert.  

[Bigbox99]

Return the 150.  My 200 only made that exact issue when the spool bearing on the handle side after years of hard use.  Casting distance wad also completely gone too.

[PTasker15]

2 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

Return the 150.  My 200 only made that exact issue when the spool bearing on the handle side after years of hard use.  Casting distance wad also completely gone too.

I found what it was after I opened it again the take PhishL's advice on where I should/shouldn't oil/grease. Forgot to mention. I did not seat the main gear back correctly. I pushed it down back into place (had removed it the first time around to get to the small plastic gear underneath). All my fault for the funny noise

 Not the best servicer, but I'm learning it decently.

 

The teeth on the pinion and main gear are not damaged. As soon as the noise popped up, stopped. As far as smoothness, it was pretty smooth the first time, but with Phish's help, is quite smooth now. Functions normally now, as mentioned in my last comment. 

[Bigbox99]

2 hours ago, PTasker15 said:

I found what it was after I opened it again the take PhishL's advice on where I should/shouldn't oil/grease. Forgot to mention. I did not seat the main gear back correctly. I pushed it down back into place (had removed it the first time around to get to the small plastic gear underneath). All my fault for the funny noise

 Not the best servicer, but I'm learning it decently.

 

The teeth on the pinion and main gear are not damaged. As soon as the noise popped up, stopped. As far as smoothness, it was pretty smooth the first time, but with Phish's help, is quite smooth now. Functions normally now, as mentioned in my last comment. 

That's how you learn and it'll save you in serving costs down the line if you service your reel yourself as opposed to sending them off or treating them as disposable.

[PhishLI]

9 hours ago, PTasker15 said:

Everything works normally now and is smooth.

👍

[PTasker15]

On 1/12/2024 at 4:31 PM, Bigbox99 said:

That's how you learn and it'll save you in serving costs down the line if you service your reel yourself as opposed to sending them off or treating them as disposable.

That's my hope. I've serviced a few lews reels, doing small repairs like retention clips and some bigger things like a complete worm gear/line guide replacement and they've come out well.

 

Lew's had to be serviced alot (for me), and these daiwa needed to be touched up out of the box, but I've yet to have to touch my Shimano Curado 200K outside of regular oiling. I really like that. Definitely my smoothest reel, quietest, and best feeling. Does weight alot, and brakes are a little difficult on me being a magnetic boy.