GAMEOVER Posted December 4, 2006 Posted December 4, 2006 I was wandering around looking at different rods very interested in what could be my first MegaBass Destroyer rod when I was doing research on ITO Engineering. Long story short I stumpled upon Daiwas Steez series of rods and was suprised to see the Steez out performing a Loomis GLX. Here's the review. http://www.tackletour.com/reviewdaiwastz631.html Quote
Super User 5bass Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 .....yep,and as soon as I win the lottery I'm loading my boat with both the rods AND reels! Quote
Super User KU_Bassmaster. Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 No hook hanger????? Is this common in HIGH end rods??? I just don't get it. It something so simple, small, and esay to add, but it means soooooooooooooooo much in my opinion Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 Has TackleTour ever reviewed a product they didn't like? It's the little things that drive me crazy. Not having a hook hanger is an advantage (?) and it...saves weight? Exactly how much weight do you think it saves? Oh! and it helps prevent hooks from scratching your rod, too? That's great. How or where do you secure your lure when it is not in use? Do you remove a lure everytime you put your rod down? Isn't it interesting how wannabies are always comparing themselves to a G. Loomis? Quote
Super User .ghoti. Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 Quote Has TackleTour ever reviewed a product they didn't like? Yes, it just didn't come out of Japan. Quote
Super User Alpster Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 Has TackleTour ever reviewed a product they didn't like? It's the little things that drive me crazy. Not having a hook hanger is an advantage (?) and it...saves weight? Exactly how much weight do you think it saves? Oh! and it helps prevent hooks from scratching your rod, too? That's great. How or where do you secure your lure when it is not in use? Do you remove a lure everytime you put your rod down? Isn't it interesting how wannabies are always comparing themselves to a G. Loomis? I build quite a few rods and yes, leaving out a hookkeeper saves weight. The weight of having to do a little more work. LOL It's kind of like the fastest gun in the west, everyone wants to challenge the best G-Loomis. JMHO Ronnie Quote
justfishin Posted December 4, 2006 Posted December 4, 2006 Where do you buy those rods without the hook keeper? I have been looking for them as the hook keepers on my rods weigh close to three pounds ! ---------- Hook hangers not only add weight they also bring hooks dangerously close to the rod, often allowing them to scratch and nick the surface of the blank. Most Japanese anglers overcome the lack of a hook hanger by simply hanging their bait at the base of the first guide standoff. The lack of a hook hanger will likely be viewed as ridiculous by most mainstream anglers, but welcomed by enthusiasts.---------- After reading the review on this rod along with some of the statements proclaimed as in the above one, I cannot wait until a later date when some of you rod builders in this post get your hands on one and give us your opinions. Quote
Super User flechero Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 suprised to see the Steez out performing a Loomis GLX. I'm sorry you bought into the "lab tests" Those are 2 very different rods. 3" may not seem like much to the average person but it is... especially in things like a balance point. A shorter and lesser power rod with no foregrip and a split grip SHOULD be lighter and balance closer to the reel. ...lol To take it further, I am a little suspect of the reported weights... Isn't it interesting how wannabies are always comparing themselves to a G. Loomis? Yes and not even comparing apples to apples... funny how that's as common as a comparison with Loomis. ...lol It would be like me coming out and saying I have a 6' med Loomis with recoil guides that's lighter than that steez and balances out better. Not apples to apples so it's meaningless. And before anyone says I'm a Loomis blowhard, I'm not. In fact I am down to only owning 1 at the moment. I'm not a fan of any comparison of apples to oranges. Quote
Super User Grey Wolf Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 Why would anyone pay that much for a factory rod ? I don't care what kind of warrenty they have. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted December 4, 2006 Super User Posted December 4, 2006 Where do you buy those rods without the hook hanger. I have been looking for them as the hookhangers on my rods weigh close to three pounds ! That is funny. ;D ;D ;D Quote
scbassin Posted December 4, 2006 Posted December 4, 2006 I know several people that don't like hook keepers. They fish with one hand forward of the reel with the line laying between their index finger & thumb. The hook keeper is in the way in this case. They say with your line laying over your index finger you will feel the fish much sooner. Quote
GAMEOVER Posted December 5, 2006 Author Posted December 5, 2006 Wow how can some of you say that a hook hanger just adds weight. I think its almost a necessity to have one unless you want to scratch up your blank but then again if your like me dont ever keep a lure on your rod unless your in a hurry to get on the water and tie it on before you go but I never keep lures on my rods while their not going to be used for multiple reasons. Scratching your blank, snaping back and smacking a guide, putting a lure out of tune possibly from the constant pressure (could happen). What about the Kistler Helium LTAs which weigh less then just about any rod of its class and it has a hook hanger. I like tackletour, but I wish there were some other tackle review sites as well. Quote
Guest DavidGreen Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Has TackleTour ever reviewed a product they didn't like?No!It's the little things that drive me crazy. Not having a hook hanger is an advantage (?) and it...saves weight? Exactly how much weight do you think it saves?The same amount as a the smallest guide and the thread wrap and finish (grams).Oh! and it helps prevent hooks from scratching your rod, too?Scratch or nick any rod (doesn't matter who's rod) enough in one place, and it will fail at that point. Just like cutting glass. I normally don't build with any HK's, unless the client request it.That's great. How or where do you secure your lure when it is not in use? Do you remove a lure everytime you put your rod down? I don't. When fishing and switching rods a lot, the lure hangs lose from the tip. Sometimes when in a hurry it even hangs from the tip underway while the rod is strapped down on the deck. Isn't it interesting how wannabies are always comparing themselves to a G. Loomis?I have repaired a lot of Loomis rods and I know I build a better rod, and I'm truthful about what is on the rod.... Besides it isn't the rods that your buying its the no questions asked warranty.Tight Lines!!! Quote
The_Natural Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 I read the entire review, and I didn't see where they said it was better in any area versus the GLX. It weighs less, I did notice that, but other than them using the mbr glx as a reference point (they do in all their reviews), I didn't notice any direct comparisons. A couple of months ago, they tested a new bcr glx, and zander claimed it was "The most sensitve rod I have ever fished with." In all honesty, I'm sure it is a tremendous rod, and you can pretty much pick your poison when rods get over the $300 mark. Any rod over $300 is going to be light and sensitive, a la Croix LE's, Loomis GLX's, Kistler LTX, Megabass, Evergreen, etc. Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 5, 2006 Super User Posted December 5, 2006 About TT, you will never see a bad review there for a reason, if the product doesn 't get a good review they just don 't post it. Quote
Super User senile1 Posted December 5, 2006 Super User Posted December 5, 2006 I like Tackletour.com for informational purposes. I have yet to see a product receive less than an 8.0 in their ratings. The very good stuff rates above a 9.0. The so-so stuff gets an 8.0 - 8.9. So you can tell what tests OK and what tests great. You just have to adjust your interpretation of their ratings. (My opinion only.) They have all of the vendors links posted on the site so they're not going to make anyone look bad. As for hook hangers, I like them. If you leave your lure hanging loose or you hook it on on a guide standoff it's just as likely to scratch the rod, but in a different place. I think if it is hanging loose there is more of a chance of scratching the rod, myself. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted December 5, 2006 Super User Posted December 5, 2006 I have looked at a Steez rod and they are very nice but after rigging a reel on it, I still like my Loomis GLX. It is just a personal feel thing. As far as the TackleTour Reviews, I do recall a review on a MegaBass rod, I think, that broke at the tip. They gave it a poor rating, explained in detail what they did and did not like about it, and then all of sudden the review was gone. I have searched their website and found nothing. If someone can recall this review or maybe fill in the blanks, please list some more details. Quote
jayhawkfishin Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 http://www.tackletour.com/reviewmborochievo.html 6.33 rating http://www.tackletour.com/reviewabueonpro.html 7.3 rating http://www.tackletour.com/reviewthundershad.html 7.9 rating Just a few i found below a 8. Quote
TournyFish001 Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 that tackle tour review on the megabass rod was classic- it's too bad the rod broke on the guy and they would not even replace it- definately not G Loomis service there and megabass rods are usually 450 and up! Quote
Guest avid Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 About TT, you will never see a bad review there for a reason, if the product doesn 't get a good review they just don 't post it. Why do you think that is? could advertising dollars be at stake? i like the TT crew. I think they are good guys, but not printing bad reviews speaks poorly as to their credibility and does nothing to help consumers. Quote
Vidar6 Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 I have looked at a Steez rod and they are very nice but after rigging a reel on it, I still like my Loomis GLX. It is just a personal feel thing. As far as the TackleTour Reviews, I do recall a review on a MegaBass rod, I think, that broke at the tip. They gave it a poor rating, explained in detail what they did and did not like about it, and then all of sudden the review was gone. I have searched their website and found nothing. If someone can recall this review or maybe fill in the blanks, please list some more details. The review is still there, under the enthusiast section as it's always been ;D ;D Megabass F4-69RSDti Orochi Evolution Quote
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