Jerkbaits and 110 Jr specific question

[Functional]

Got a few gift cards to cabelas over Christmas and I've decided to invest in a jerkbait or 3. I already have 2 megabass 110s (one silent, one regular) in sexy shad and a Berkley of some flavor. The few I've been looking at but open to suggestions are below. Water clarity when I'd use a JB would be anywhere from 1ft to 5ft visibility. 

 

6th Sense Provoke - Jaint Juice

Lucky Craft Pointer SP - Chartreuse Shad

Megabass 110 JR - Elegy Bone, French Pearl OB, Tablerock SP, Ito Natural, Matt Shad

Megabass 110JR +1

 

I definitely want 1-2 of the 110 JRs but I'm curious about their true running depth. I'll be throwing these primarily on spinning gear with 15lb braid to 8-10lb mono leader. What is their true running depth (non cold water) with a line setup like this? The JR seems a bit too shallow if it doesnt hit depth and the +1 seems a bit too deep for my typical fishing if it does run true. A true 4-5ft running depth would be perfect. 

 

 

[A-Jay]

Big fan of that 110 Jr +1 - gets big bites for me on brown bass.

Running depth can be a variable that is determined by a few factors.

I'd say that right out of the box, stock baits on the rigs mentioned above,

would see something like 7 ft on a long cast with FC mainline or leader.

And a little less with mono.

A-Jay

 

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/233534-megabass-vision-oneten1-jr-~/?do=findComment&comment=2702069

 

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/233534-megabass-vision-oneten1-jr-~/?do=findComment&comment=3019438

 

[Functional]

Thanks @A-Jay. Your thread was the only one I could find really mentioning true depth. So long casts 6-7 on the +1jr and probably 5-6 on medium casts I take it. 

 

What's your experience been with the regular Jr and it's depth?  At this point I'm kind of going to assume a true 4' with a decent cast and similar line setup.

 

I know water temp will play a part, just trying to find average conditions not during winter temps. 

[JediAmoeba]

The regular junior is very shallow - probably dives to 3-4 feet but out of the package they are a slow float and will come to the surface.

 

I really am liking the x-80 trick darter for a smaller size. I would look into those.

 

 

[Smells like fish]

@A-Jay couple years ago there was a jerkbait you couldn’t get bit with at deeper depths. I was thinking it was a MB. Did you correct that?

 

I always wondered if it was a line or different rod length, action, spine that was needed to get the snap into the lure at deep depth.

[A-Jay]

I don't fish the reg 110 jr. So I have no real world experience to pass on.

 

Also my experience with the MB 110  +2

has been less than ideal.  Baits casts and runs like I expected, plenty deep too.

But I have not been able to get bites on them.

Whatever the magic sauce is, I can't seem to tap into it.

Accordingly I'll be selling them here in a month or so.

Along with a fairly decent load of various other baits.

A-Jay

 

 

[Functional]

@JediAmoeba thanks I definitely don't want floating in non winter temps. Jr +1 it is and I'll check out the X-80 also. 

 

@A-Jay appreciate the input none the less!  

 

My biggest issue now is not breaking my 2024 intentions too badly only 8 days into it and just picking a FEW 😇. Those MB colors are working on me.

[rangerjockey]

I personally wouldn't use braid on a stick bait. If you stay with the vision and it's variant's and the Spro McStick  it's hard to go wrong.

 

[Functional]

@rangerjockey I'll give it a try on the braid to leader on spinning and see where to go from there. I get the slack line sensitivity I may be missing out on with the braid but hopefully a long enough (10ft) leader will have enough mass on a twitch to give me some sensation. If not I have other rigs I can re-arrange to use full floro or mono. If I'm not mistaken a braid to leader is what Ajay uses on his spinning jerkbait setup so I have some faith.

 

I ended up going all megabass 110 jr +1s in Mat Shad, Elegy Bone and GP Pro Blue. I figured that variety will give me a version for every occasion.

[Carolina Pines]

16 minutes ago, Functional said:

@rangerjockey I'll give it a try on the braid to leader on spinning and see where to go from there. I get the slack line sensitivity I may be missing out on with the braid but hopefully a long enough (10ft) leader will have enough mass on a twitch to give me some sensation. If not I have other rigs I can re-arrange to use full floro or mono. If I'm not mistaken a braid to leader is what Ajay uses on his spinning jerkbait setup so I have some faith.

 

I ended up going all megabass 110 jr +1s in Mat Shad, Elegy Bone and GP Pro Blue. I figured that variety will give me a version for every occasion.

 

Those are some of the same colors I have, Elegy Bone in particular I like a lot.  Great for stained water.  

 

If I were you, I'd definitely get a couple of Pointer 100s if you don't already have some.  They suspend right around 4' for me in 50 degree water.  If nothing else just keep them in your box for times the MB 110s aren't working.  

 

There are times the Pointers will get bit repeatedly while the 110s get ignored.  I fish in NC also, I feel like for most of the water around me, the Pointers work better as an "all around" jerkbait.   

 

I'm braid to leader as well but I'm throwing them on casting gear.  I throw the Pointer 78 and 65 on spinning gear, also braid to leader.  I'll sacrifice some of slack line sensitivity for the ability to work the bait much better.  Good moderate action rod + braid w/ leader is the way to go IMO. 

 

[Munkin]

Vision 110 Jr runs shallower than other jerkbaits its size IMO. I am going to try the deeper version this year.  As for colors I like Matte shad and the Fine Art colors. FA Wagasaki has worked the best so far.

 

Allen 

[rangerjockey]

I'm a big fan of the JR. +1 in FA Wagasaki as well.. It looks a lot like Table Rock shad.

I think we will see more deeper diving baits because of FFS and them being fished year round. I always put them down at 60 degrees but the scopers fish them faster over brush etc..

One thing I've noticed is they seldom if ever, move down to get the bait. We fish for them suspended in trees a lot and you want to be sure your not under them.

 

[Bluebasser86]

The Jaint Juice Provoke is one of my favorite stained water colors. 

[Munkin]

27 minutes ago, rangerjockey said:

I'm a big fan of the JR. +1 in FA Wagasaki as well.. It looks a lot like Table Rock shad.

I think we will see more deeper diving baits because of FFS and them being fished year round. I always put them down at 60 degrees but the scopers fish them faster over brush etc..

One thing I've noticed is they seldom if ever, move down to get the bait. We fish for them suspended in trees a lot and you want to be sure your not under them.

 

 

You know where to buy some? I am coming up blank on my search.

 

Allen

[Functional]

@rangerjockey I had a Table Rock SP in my cart and I was trying to decide if the lure was catching me or it would be good for fishing. Historically I have not had much luck with Chartreuse but it is a really nice pattern. I'm heading to a fishing show this weekend so i still may end up with one.

 

@Bluebasser86 I'll still probably end up with one. At least from pictures its a nice blend of white and subtle chartreuse. I do get stained water on my home lake so thats good to know.  

[rangerjockey]

27 minutes ago, Munkin said:

 

You know where to buy some? I am coming up blank on my search.

 

Allen

The last one I found was at ALF

 

[Carolina Pines]

Go wild with various megabass colors all you want, but you're only hurting yourself if you don't have some pointers in your box as well.  Chartreuse Shad is a great stained water / all around color. 

 

You said you want a true 4-5 foot running depth, my regular Vision 110s run shallower than that... but my LC pointers hit 4-5 feet perfectly.  Also, the pointer is a true suspending jerkbait... not a slow float like the 110 jr. 

 

[rangerjockey]

I have some as well as the 78's. I haven't seem the magic you speak of . If your only getting 4 feet out of a standard 110 it's probably the line your using . My 110's usually suspend fine out of the box. 

Once in a while they might need a extra split ring or a turn or 2 of solder but it's going to vary with the water temp.

 

 

[Munkin]

6 hours ago, Carolina Pines said:

Go wild with various megabass colors all you want, but you're only hurting yourself if you don't have some pointers in your box as well.  Chartreuse Shad is a great stained water / all around color. 

 

You said you want a true 4-5 foot running depth, my regular Vision 110s run shallower than that... but my LC pointers hit 4-5 feet perfectly.  Also, the pointer is a true suspending jerkbait... not a slow float like the 110 jr. 

 

 

Willing to bet I am in the Top 3 people on this site who own the most LC jerkbaits. If I could only own one jerkbait it would be a Ghost Minnow Pointer 78sp.

 

Allen

[Munkin]

7 hours ago, rangerjockey said:

The last one I found was at ALF

 

 

Mo idea what that is?

 

Allen

[softwateronly]

@Munkin

https://www.americanlegacyfishing.com/megabass-vision-110-jr-jerkbait.html

 

scott

[Functional]

Hitting a fishing show this Friday so I'll likely grab a pointer and a provoke.

 

Just saw 6th sense released a Provoke 97x (110 JR equivalent) that I might have to buy to compare if any are there. Doubtful...but I really am interested. 

[FishTank]

On 1/8/2024 at 7:07 PM, A-Jay said:

Also my experience with the MB 110  +2

has been less than ideal.  Baits casts and runs like I expected, plenty deep too.

But I have not been able to get bites on them.

Whatever the magic sauce is, I can't seem to tap into it.

Accordingly I'll be selling them here in a month or so.

Along with a fairly decent load of various other baits.

A-Jay

 

 

 

I have struggled with it as well until I got a few pieces of advice from a guy fishing for striper a few years ago and he was catching them left and right. I don't fish the +2 often and only really have 2 left in my box but the advice I got has worked for me on a few occasions.

 

So first off line, 10lb fluorocarbon is where the magic is at. No heavier and no mono or braid .  This is where it gets a little iffy for me.... When jerking with a heavier line or mono it can cause the line to wrap or pull on the nose when pausing. It changes how the bait sits, looks and how it will jerk on the next pull.  Finally and most important for me, you don't jerk or pop the bait like you do a 110 or 110 +1. You actually swipe/drag the bait with a sweeping motion after you get it to depth, then pause it.  On the pause, make sure the line is some what tight and they should hit (at least that's what has happened for me). I have also caught fish on a straight retrieve with varying speed.

 

I wish I could do a video to explain it but I hope this makes sense. 

 

[Smells like fish]

@Bluebasser86 speaking of jerkbaits, are Headhunters still among your favs?

[Bluebasser86]

@Smells like fish yes they are, just put fresh hooks on a couple Sunday in fact.