Tim Kelly Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Good video, and good to see Aaron making content again. 4 Quote
Pat Brown Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 That was fascinating and yet another great video that suggests that fishing is evolving and livescope is, perhaps counterintuitively, a money saver and could result in better conservation practices by anglers that are going to be catching them one way or another anyway. I kinda liked the narrative promoting a small electric motor craft angler with limited but useful rods reels and baits and a powerful piece of technology. 2000$ seems a lot smaller when you consider the barrier to entry up until the advent of the scope, was a 100,000$ boat, 20 rods and 4 graphs. Process of elimination gets fairly expensive fairly quickly when you turn out the lights. Maybe the only entity that really needs to worry about livescope, ironically, is the tackle industry! 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️ Sure seems like an interesting take on the whole debate to me! 2 Quote
Smokinal Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 I admit I didn't watch the whole thing...does anyone take fizzing into consideration? 1 Quote
Tackleholic Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 I'm 100% catch and release and always have a fizzing needle in the boat. Most people do not. 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 Maybe just don’t target fish so deep. Seems pretty simple to me. 8 1 Quote
greentrout Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 I believe he's picking a bone with the Minnesota DNR. 1 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 He’s also looking for views, likes, and subscribers on YouTube. 7 1 Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 "Now I'm not a biologist..." Huh. You don't say. Wonder why the DNR is staffed with scientists rather than, say, YouTube content creators? I'm sure it's all a government plot to "threaten our angling rights" 🙄 1 3 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 5 hours ago, MIbassyaker said: Wonder why the DNR is staffed with scientists Most of them are. Not all of them. Some of the top positions are political appointees, not career tenured positions based on education, qualifications, or experience. They are replaced every 4 or 8 years depending on who the governor is. I won't get into the politics of it but let's just say I don't think the commissioner or deputy commissioner of the DNR is qualified to currently hold those positions. 4 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2023 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2023 I’m a biologist……. what does that tell you about the required criteria? 😂 4 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m a biologist……. Armchair biologist. 1 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2023 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2023 Class of ‘07 baby haha. Still practicing 1 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2023 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2023 Honestly the kid does a pretty good job, and he said rule number one would be just don’t fish that deep. you’d be surprised how haphazard some fish and wildlife studies are, they could probably learn from this fella he’s clearly familiar with the scientific method and his study is as good as any you will find, looked much better than the one conducted by the MN DNR if I was peer reviewing it the DNR would probably hire him on the spot after seeing his study but I doubt he wans to take a pay cut 1 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m a biologist……. what does that tell you about the required criteria? 😂 A-Jay 4 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 I don’t like to needle (fizz) bass because it’s a wound that must heal before the air bladder is functional. Every winter seasonal period I see dark colored zombie bass swimming about 5’ down that have been fizzed by other anglers. Sick bass. The best method is sinking the bass down quickly after catching it in water over 40’ deep. I use a 8 oz torpedo sinker clipped onto anther rod, put the sinker into the basses throat and lower it down, then lift up on the sinker and the bass is released at the proper depth. Easy! Tom 6 1 Quote
softwateronly Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Honestly the kid does a pretty good job, and he said rule number one would be just don’t fish that deep. he’s clearly familiar with the scientific method and his study is as good as any you will find, looked much better than the one conducted by the MN DNR if I was peer reviewing it Energy expenditure and angle of descent were not considered in any meaningful way in the MN DNR study. It's almost complete garbage. scott 4 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2023 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2023 @softwateronly, your license fees hard at work 😂 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted December 30, 2023 Super User Posted December 30, 2023 Just now, TnRiver46 said: @softwateronly, your license fees hard at work 😂 He lives in Illinois. License fees in Illinois do not fund studies for the Minnesota DNR. Maybe stick to armchair biology instead of geography. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2023 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2023 I don’t know where he lives, “the royal we, man” 2 Quote
RipzLipz Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 The kid may not have had the label of a biologist but his common sense went quite a long way considering he was releasing the fish & allowing them to actually swim away without being stopped by a net. Idiocracy has arrived. 3 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted December 31, 2023 Global Moderator Posted December 31, 2023 3 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m a biologist……. what does that tell you about the required criteria? 😂 2 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted December 31, 2023 Super User Posted December 31, 2023 The kid did a great job making his point and clearly found a flaw in the DNR study. That said, I watched the video of the DNR study and they referred to it as a pilot study and said a more scientific study was needed. They are not saying the study proved anything and are not saying more regulation is required. They did say it indicates that anglers should consider keeping fish caught in deeper water and then moving shallow after they get their limit. 2 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted December 31, 2023 Super User Posted December 31, 2023 6 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m a biologist……. what does that tell you about the required criteria? 😂 Maybe if you could catch a bass on a spinnerbait, your ability to meet the criteria would increase. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 31, 2023 Global Moderator Posted December 31, 2023 @king fisher, it’s too late, I’ve already met it. No wire baits required (spinnerbaits are reserved for astrology majors) 2 Quote
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