Daiwa Admira 23

[Bandersnatch]

I’ll admit that I really want a daiwa reel with zillion/steez performance with a frame that is more sized to the steez ct sv but with the line capacity of the 100 sized zillion. If anyone knows what that reel is, let me know. That brings me to this Admira that just popped up on jdm sites. With a little googling I found that the old Admira lacked magforce breaks and was a jigging reel. This new Admira says it has those breaks but isn’t a bass reel. What is different ?
 

https://www.daiwa.com/jp/product/2mlrv8x

[Bandersnatch]

This brings me to another question. 1. Do they make a deep spool for the steez ct sv? 2. Let’s be extreme, say I fogged on this reel (steez ct sv)what would be the impact from a damage perspective ? Just replacing gears at some point ?

[bulldog1935]

@Bandersnatch MagForce (v. SV) says this is a big-weight reel, likely aimed at the same offshore (or shore) slow jigging niche.  

 

Isn't Alphas SV TW 800 the reel you're spec'ing out?  

[GetFishorDieTryin]

5 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

I’ll admit that I really want a daiwa reel with zillion/steez performance with a frame that is more sized to the steez ct sv but with the line capacity of the 100 sized zillion. If anyone knows what that reel is, let me know. That brings me to this Admira that just popped up on jdm sites. With a little googling I found that the old Admira lacked magforce breaks and was a jigging reel. This new Admira says it has those breaks but isn’t a bass reel. What is different ?
 

https://www.daiwa.com/jp/product/2mlrv8x

While its not a higher end reel, the Coastal 80 is essentially what you described.  Its a small power reel with a deep spool.  Pretty sure its based on a Tatula though.  

[FishTank]

3 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

While its not a higher end reel, the Coastal 80 is essentially what you described.  Its a small power reel with a deep spool.  Pretty sure its based on a Tatula though.  

I have this reel and was going to suggest it as well. Good reel but is it like a Steez or Zillion?  Not really.  It doesn't cast as well,  it's not as smooth.  It does hold a lot of line,  and the drag is pretty beefy. 

 

The reel I'm seeing isn't a Daiwa but a Shimano.... the Metanium 100 would be the direction I would go.

[Bandersnatch]

3 hours ago, FishTank said:

I have this reel and was going to suggest it as well. Good reel but is it like a Steez or Zillion?  Not really.  It doesn't cast as well,  it's not as smooth.  It does hold a lot of line,  and the drag is pretty beefy. 

 

The reel I'm seeing isn't a Daiwa but a Shimano.... the Metanium 100 would be the direction I would go.

Thank you. Do they make a deeper spool for the steez ct sv ? 
 

I absolutely hate the mentanium, maybe they fixed something with the 100 size spool? 

10 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

@Bandersnatch MagForce (v. SV) says this is a big-weight reel, likely aimed at the same offshore (or shore) slow jigging niche.  

 

Isn't Alphas SV TW 800 the reel you're spec'ing out?  

I have an alphas and while I like it the reel itself just doesn’t have the it feel. It’s almost like it’s too flat. IMO the steez ct sv is the perfect frame. 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

50 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

I absolutely hate the mentanium, maybe they fixed something with the 100 size spool? 

What do you hate about it?

 

[Bandersnatch]

1 hour ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

What do you hate about it?

 

First, it’s unreliable from a casting perspective, it doesn’t tune well and needs to be tweaked consistently, nothing like the met 16, or the majority of the other current gen Shimano mgl reels. Second, while the frame is solid, it feels a little soulless, almost too rigid. The zillion got it right like many of the other Shimano feels. I’d prefer a curado 150 over the current metanium 

[bulldog1935]

3 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

Thank you. Do they make a deeper spool for the steez ct sv ? 

They can't make it deeper than the stock G1 spool, because the SV inductor is recessed into one side of the spool hollow, and the spool bearing into the opposite side.  

 

Here, you can see all the Daiwa spools, including Original and RCS

https://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/product-list/325

[GetFishorDieTryin]

53 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

First, it’s unreliable from a casting perspective, it doesn’t tune well and needs to be tweaked consistently, nothing like the met 16, or the majority of the other current gen Shimano mgl reels. Second, while the frame is solid, it feels a little soulless, almost too rigid. The zillion got it right like many of the other Shimano feels. I’d prefer a curado 150 over the current metanium 

I think there great, I love mine.  The JDM versions are a little more difficult to dial in for beginners, but still forgiving.  If you dont have the side plate in correctly then you can really run into issues with the brakes.  

[Bandersnatch]

19 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

While its not a higher end reel, the Coastal 80 is essentially what you described.  Its a small power reel with a deep spool.  Pretty sure its based on a Tatula though.  

Costal 80 looks to be built on the same frame as the alphas sv, alphas can be bought cheaper than the costal. Obviously the alphas won’t have the line capacity as the costal. Is the alphas built better than the costal?

[GetFishorDieTryin]

To be honest I have no idea.  Ive never held an Alphas in my hand and Ive got less than 3 hours fishing with a buddy's coastal 80 and 200.  I do recall asking him about the 2 because  I was interested in the 80 and he said he liked the 200 more than the 80 and his Coastal SV, which he didnt have with him.  The 200 was really nice, its fairly small, but the spool is deep and its got a nice power handle which was great for jigging (which is what we were doing). 

There are several people on here who are alphas fans, and they would know the ins and outs much better than me.  What I do know is that an Alphas will come with a short handle, probably 80 or 85mm and they have a smaller frame than a zillion.

[PBBrandon]

10 hours ago, Bandersnatch said:

Costal 80 looks to be built on the same frame as the alphas sv, alphas can be bought cheaper than the costal. Obviously the alphas won’t have the line capacity as the costal. Is the alphas built better than the costal?

I have a couple of Alphas and Zillion reels. Never owned a Coastal. It seems like a Tatula 80 that’s been beefed up for saltwater use. The Alphas has the free floating spool design of the Zillion, and honestly feels just as smooth. The Coastal I think has the longer spool shaft. Looks like the Zillion holds roughly 100 yards of 12lb test and the Alphas holds 110 yards of 10lb test. I don’t know the math but it seems like the Zillion has a bit more line capacity, but the Alphas has plenty for all-round use. The Alphas is a better reel than the coastal, and up there with the Zillion in quality

[Heitman9916]

I actually purchased an Daiwa Admira A. Has the Z-Magforce braking and a really deep spool. I'm trying it out on my C-Rig rod. Small foot print with good power and line capacity. Haven't fished it much yet, haven't caught anything on it yet, but i believe it will be a good C-rig/football jig reel. 

[Bigbox99]

On 12/21/2023 at 6:52 AM, Bandersnatch said:

This brings me to another question. 1. Do they make a deep spool for the steez ct sv? 2. Let’s be extreme, say I fogged on this reel (steez ct sv)what would be the impact from a damage perspective ? Just replacing gears at some point ?

The Zillion, Alphas and Steez CT all use the same gears from a compatability standpoint.  

[redmeansdistortion]

The Admira uses a 30mm spool with a capacity somewhere between the SV700 and SV700S spool.  When plugging the capacity specs into the Pattaya line calculator, the SV700 spool will hold 347m of 0.128 2lb mono, while the Admira spool is spec'd to hold 200m.  This is nearly 1.75x the capacity of the SV700 found in the Steez.  The SV700S on the other hand is rated to hold ~170m of 2lb, so a hair less than the Admira.  The original SV700 spool should be a drop-in with the line capacity you are looking for since it too is a 30mm spool.  The only thing to be mindful of is the magnet configuration in the Admira.  The SV700 spools have a long inductor.  If the magnets of the Admira are deep, the inductor may come into contact when running a SV700.  Sometimes Mag Z spools use the deeper magnets as the spools tend to be heavier than the SV spools and require more braking.

[Bandersnatch]

12 hours ago, Heitman9916 said:

I actually purchased an Daiwa Admira A. Has the Z-Magforce braking and a really deep spool. I'm trying it out on my C-Rig rod. Small foot print with good power and line capacity. Haven't fished it much yet, haven't caught anything on it yet, but i believe it will be a good C-rig/football jig reel. 

Is it’s casting reliability different than a sv type reel?

[ABU is overpriced]

I too am a big fan of the Steez CT frame, but don't have any reels with it because they've never released a reel that uses this frame and supports 34mm spools. If they did this, i'd grab it day one. The new Pixy for the USDM market that just came out, and is essentially just an alphas tw, should have been based on the steez ct frame. Imagine a pixy on this frame, using 31mm spools so you could swap them around, and they made some limited edition ones with actual color that isn't the boring silver or black.