Super User GetFishorDieTryin Posted December 15, 2023 Super User Posted December 15, 2023 Try pegging the weight a foot or 16' above the hook, the lightest weight you can possibly get away with, really a mojo rig. I feel like I have more time to set the hook with a lighter weight because there's less resistance when the fish swims off with the bait. As a kid, I used to use tubes with an earplug stuffed inside to slow the fall, it would make a difference in getting bit or not when the water is in the mid 30s or low 40s, but its going to cause you to lose some fish. I would suggest trying a smaller floating stickbait, like a Zmans 4" hula stick. Some people like big baits in the winter, but in the colder parts of the country the majority of bait in the water that's active are small. Try a lighter wire hook, when it gets cold their mouth hardens a good bit and a thinner wire will get better penetration. 5 Quote
33oldtimer Posted December 15, 2023 Author Posted December 15, 2023 7 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said: Try pegging the weight a foot or 16' above the hook, the lightest weight you can possibly get away with, really a mojo rig. I feel like I have more time to set the hook with a lighter weight because there's less resistance when the fish swims off with the bait. As a kid, I used to use tubes with an earplug stuffed inside to slow the fall, it would make a difference in getting bit or not when the water is in the mid 30s or low 40s, but its going to cause you to lose some fish. I would suggest trying a smaller floating stickbait, like a Zmans 4" hula stick. Some people like big baits in the winter, but in the colder parts of the country the majority of bait in the water that's active are small. Try a lighter wire hook, when it gets cold their mouth hardens a good bit and a thinner wire will get better penetration. Sort of sounds like a split shot rig. I also like lighter wire hooks. Quote
txchaser Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 Must have a lot to do with hookset style or something like that. I tried a bunch of flavors of worm hooks and couldn't for the life of me get a hook in the fish. Just kept blowing it out of their mouth. But (specifically) the mustad grip-pin EWG has been really reliable, and a flipping-style hook works just fine. But this style just doesn't work for me and my sweep set: Quote
33oldtimer Posted December 16, 2023 Author Posted December 16, 2023 Any of you folks ever side skin hook a worm? I did that once when I was having a tough time catching bass on a plastic worm. Hadn't thought about it in a long while. 1 Quote
Super User GetFishorDieTryin Posted December 17, 2023 Super User Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/15/2023 at 8:22 AM, 33oldtimer said: Sort of sounds like a split shot rig. I also like lighter wire hooks. It pretty much is, I think. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted December 17, 2023 Super User Posted December 17, 2023 If the bass are swimming off with it I would let them have it a little longer before setting the hook, also I would cast back into the area where you first got the bite. Sometimes a bass will swim off with the bait if there are other bass in the area. 3 Quote
ironbjorn Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 I've never once had a problem with hooksets with EWG hooks. Worth noting that bass in cold water have tough, hardened jaws and flesh compared to the soft, squishy summer months. Make sure you're jacking them. 1 Quote
RipzLipz Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 On 12/14/2023 at 2:19 PM, Catt said: Why? Lots of anglers follow this theory & I don't understand why. I’m not claiming this will improve the hookup ratio but from what I understand the theory is that if a straight shank round bend hook is used in combination with a pegged (bobber stop) weight & a snell knot, the hook eye will pull up against the conic shape under the sinker & rotate/leverage to a more horizontal position during the hookset. This places the hook point over top of the shank & supposedly results in more hookups in the roof of the mouth. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted December 20, 2023 Super User Posted December 20, 2023 @RipzLipz That's pretty much what I’ve heard. Its also believed that straight shank hooks in general have a more solid hookup ratio. My question is why one wouldn't use straight shank hooks for every plastics application? 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted December 20, 2023 Super User Posted December 20, 2023 I use the EWG, straight shank, and the offset round bend for different things based on the bait thickness, the water conditions, and sometimes line size. The only one I have issues with is straight shank. Hook sets are fine but fish tend to pop the hook out if they jump. In close quarters this isn't an issue. In cold water, certain baits seem to get stiffer and it makes hook penetration harder if you bury the hook. For instance, a Dinger or a 7in Power Worm. So like mentioned above, swing hard. For me, in cold water, I stay with a wacky rigged senko or some type of Ned rig. 1 Quote
RipzLipz Posted December 20, 2023 Posted December 20, 2023 @Catt I can’t speak for everyone, nor will I ever intend to do so. Like you, "what I’ve heard, read, watched" has implied that the straight shank can often tear up the bait more frequently. Also, for some, a snell knot isn’t the easiest knot to tie, let alone rocking around in a boat. As always, some anglers just do certain things because that’s their comfort zone. For me, that’s how I view it (comfort zone) & most things in regards to fishing in general. If something works, we may often think, why change it up? Then again, if we never try to change or adapt, will we improve in any way? No different than seeing the left lane on a busy highway full of traffic but the right lane is completely uncluttered. Many folks are just naturally sheep & follow what everyone else does. I hope that makes some semblance of sense. Sometimes us anglers just overthink things, too, when we should "just go fishin’". 😉 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 20, 2023 Super User Posted December 20, 2023 Worm hooks are always changing design to solve strike to hook set ratio. The last 2 years nearly every hook mfr offers 2 improvements; worm peg to hold the head from sliding down the hook shank and closed eye to prevent the line being caught in the wire end by adding epoxy or welded close eye. Type of hook is anyone’s preference. I prefer straight shank round bend worm hooks for larger sizes 3/0 to 6/0. #5133 for light wire size 1/0 & 2/0 for slip shot rig and octopus type Mosquito and Gamakatsu drop short hooks for nose hooking drop shot rigged. #4709 size 1 wacky hook for Senko’s. I Don’t smell tie any hook for worm fishing. Tom 1 Quote
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