PourMyOwn Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Brycecover said: Ok I’ll cancel for a 7 then. I was thinking 8 was too fast for most applications. Should I look to twtula 100, 150, ct, or sv? Someone else will have to chime in on that, I the Fuego CT I have is the only reel I use that was made after 2010. I buy used TDX and TDZ reels these days, I like the old stuff. 2 Quote
A kid from Canada Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 My vote is Tatula Elite. The 150 is great but big and doesn't palm the best. It really shines for lures above 1oz like a magdraft. I also love my SV but I like It best with a shallow spool and light braid for light lures. I had a 100 (not the 23 model) but its very similar to an Elite, just not as good so i sold it. The elite is a great all around spool size, aluminum side plate, long casting with a light enough spool to easily throw a wide range of lures. Plus I just got another one 45% off retail stacking coupons and black Friday deals off Ali. Quote
Brycecover Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, A kid from Canada said: My vote is Tatula Elite. The 150 is great but big and doesn't palm the best. It really shines for lures above 1oz like a magdraft. I also love my SV but I like It best with a shallow spool and light braid for light lures. I had a 100 (not the 23 model) but its very similar to an Elite, just not as good so i sold it. The elite is a great all around spool size, aluminum side plate, long casting with a light enough spool to easily throw a wide range of lures. Plus I just got another one 45% off retail stacking coupons and black Friday deals off Ali. Are there any still on a. Good sale like that? Not looking to pay all that much and there’s not many for good prices on eBay. Or if not, would you choose a 150 over 100 to keep it cheaper even though I’m not throwing heavy lures? 14 hours ago, swhit140 said: I have a few of the Tatula SV reels also, they get the job done. How heavy can the sv still cast good? On 12/1/2023 at 8:48 PM, swhit140 said: I would take a look at the new Daiwa Tatula 100 7:1:1, it would be a good reel ratio for a variety of lures. With an 8 would I still be able to use most lures? Or would it be too fast Quote
swhit140 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Brycecover said: Are there any still on a. Good sale like that? Not looking to pay all that much and there’s not many for good prices on eBay. Or if not, would you choose a 150 over 100 to keep it cheaper even though I’m not throwing heavy lures? How heavy can the sv still cast good? With an 8 would I still be able to use most lures? Or would it be too fast If you went with the Tatula 150 the reel will have more line capacity then any of the SV reels, the 150 will also be about 1oz heavier overall. Some of the newer Daiwa Tatula 100 have 7:1:1 ratio, where some of the Tatula CT models are 7:3:1. Some of the newer Daiwa reels are also little lighter. I don't throw any big lures, large majority of my lures I throw are up to 1/2oz lures. I don't think lure weight matters so much on the reel, lure weight would depend on the rod/line weight. The Tatula SV reels I have are 6:3:1 & 7:3:1 reels. I've never used the 8:1:1. Both of those ratio's cover everything I need them for. The higher speed gear ratio you loose some power/torque. Quote
Eric 26 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) @Brycecover Again just my opinion but I’d ditch the 8 speed as you’re looking for an all around reel as you said. Secondly save the $70.00 and get the Tatula 100 or 150 depending on your size preference and if possible go to any tackle shop that has both and if possible bring the rod you’re going to use for now. Then if you decide you love the Daiwa lineup you can upgrade to an Elite or keep the same 100 and add an SV or the Elite which for the record I don’t own either. Edited December 3, 2023 by Eric 26 Content 1 Quote
Brycecover Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Eric 26 said: @Brycecover Again just my opinion but I’d ditch the 8 speed as you’re looking for an all around reel as you said. Secondly save the $70.00 and get the Tatula 100 or 150 depending on your size preference and if possible go to any tackle shop that has both and if possible bring the rod you’re going to use for now. Then if you decide you love the Daiwa lineup you can upgrade to an Elite or keep the same 100 and add an SV or the Elite which for the record I don’t own either. Thanks for your input. I think I am going to go with the sv or 100 whichever I find for a good price. Because I already have a tatula 80 and a lews lfs. So I do want the ability to cast light and the sv spool seems like it is worth it if I can find one for a good deal. Already ditched the 8 speed and might honestly get a 6 because my others are 7s 1 Quote
928JLH Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 https://www.digitaka.com/item/4/4/2/4960652310499 good price and they ship fast. There's an Amazon listing too, but Digitaka is legit. I've ordered a few reels from them. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted December 3, 2023 Super User Posted December 3, 2023 I'll address some of the different opinions posted so far. My suggestion of the 150 had zero to do with throwing heavy lures, although it's fine for that, IMO. That's why I pointed to its versatility. I've argued for its appropriateness for this specific use with baits up to 1 1/2ozs in the past here. However, right now mine is primarily used for throwing 3/8oz-3/4oz cranks. With the correct rod it's a crank launcher, but not everyone is well calibrated to Daiwa's braking system when its set up for max distance. I know this is true because I've read over and over again here that some see Daiwas mostly for close quarters work as if that's a specific limitation of Daiwa's braking system. It's not. This is more about the comfort zone of the user, IMO. Set a Shimano for mindless, safe casting like setting 10 on a Daiwa and the max distance on a cast will drop to within a few percentage points of a comparable Daiwa. Set either on the hairy edge for distance and both will be touchy somewhere during the casting cycle. Daiwa in the beginning and Shimano at any point after that. However, due to the nature of its braking system, Mag Z will always be safer at and after the apex of the cast. This isn't to say which is better, because both are manageable. That's in the eye of the beholder. And, whether a reel is comfortable or not is often simply a matter of hand or palm size. Stating that one reel is more comfortable than another as fact isn't necessarily a fact for everyone. I remain surprised by how the 150 is a great all-around reel even if it's a dated design. More than that I find it to be special compared to the other Tatulas I've used. It handles light baits better than it should and copes with bigger baits without issue. Both mine and my brothers have remained smooth and glitch-free. At sale prices they're a true bargain if the ergos work for you. 4 Quote
r83srock Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, PhishLI said: I'll address some of the different opinions posted so far. My suggestion of the 150 had zero to do with throwing heavy lures, although it's fine for that, IMO. That's why I pointed to its versatility. I've argued for its appropriateness for this specific use with baits up to 1 1/2ozs in the past here. However, right now mine is primary used for throwing 3/8oz-3/4oz cranks. With the correct rod it's a crank launcher, but not everyone is well calibrated to Daiwa's braking system when its set up for max distance. I know this is true because I've read over and over again here that some see Daiwas mostly for close quarters work as if that's a specific limitation of Daiwa's braking system. It's not. This is more about the comfort zone of the user, IMO. Set a Shimano for mindless, safe casting like setting 10 on a Daiwa and the max distance on a cast will drop to within a few percentage points of a comparable Daiwa. Set either on the hairy edge for distance and both will be touchy somewhere during the casting cycle. Daiwa in the beginning and Shimano at any point after that. However, due to the nature of its braking system, Mag Z will always be safer at and after the apex of the cast. This isn't to say which is better, because both are manageable. That's in the eye of the beholder. And, whether a reel is comfortable or not is often simply a matter hand or palm size. Stating that one reel is more comfortable than another as fact isn't necessarily a fact for everyone. I remain surprised by how the 150 is a great all-around reel even if it's a dated design. More than that I find it to be special compared to the other Tatulas I've used. It handles light baits better than it should and copes with bigger baits without issue. Both mine and my brothers have remained smooth and glitch-free. At sale prices they're a true bargain if the ergos work for you. Being a long time Shimano user and a more recent Daiwa user this is a great explanation of how these two brands perform against each other generally speaking. I have the older and newer Tatula SV and prefer the older for more general work, as well as the Fuego ct and Tatula ct. The Tatula 103SV is pretty overbraked and works fine but it’s more of a niche reel. The 150 is the best frog/A rig/flipping/punching reel I’ve ever had, I like it a lot! It’s so strong and you know it can take a beating, but its versatility like you stated, is what surprised me the most. The frame is large, but it fits my hand like a glove. I’m all about this thing. 1 Quote
Brycecover Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, r83srock said: Being a long time Shimano user and a more recent Daiwa user this is a great explanation of how these two brands perform against each other generally speaking. I have the older and newer Tatula SV and prefer the older for more general work, as well as the Fuego ct and Tatula ct. The Tatula 103SV is pretty overbraked and works fine but it’s more of a niche reel. The 150 is the best frog/A rig/flipping/punching reel I’ve ever had, I like it a lot! It’s so strong and you know it can take a beating, but its versatility like you stated, is what surprised me the most. The frame is large, but it fits my hand like a glove. I’m all about this thing. 100 over sv then? I found a 100 for 100 shipped and a sv for 135. Both new. I have small hands and I will not be throwing many heavy lures so I feel like I should be fine with a 100 unless you can find me a 150 for a good price. Basically just has the bigger frame and aluminum side plate? 1 Quote
Eric 26 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) @Brycecover Jump on the $100.00 price and don’t feel you’re missing out on schiznit. Take both @PhishLI @r83srock’s advice as it is extremely sound. Let us know what you do but again STOP overthinking this as it’s a all around reel that you can upgrade if you feel the need 😉 Although I don’t think you will want to upgrade as much as add too. Edited December 4, 2023 by Eric 26 Content Quote
r83srock Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, Brycecover said: 100 over sv then? I found a 100 for 100 shipped and a sv for 135. Both new. I have small hands and I will not be throwing many heavy lures so I feel like I should be fine with a 100 unless you can find me a 150 for a good price. Basically just has the bigger frame and aluminum side plate? The 150 has a dual bearing pinion gear so it will stay smoother longer with braid and heavy hook sets. The 100 is a nice reel also, I had 3 of them and wish I’d have kept them. Sounds like you found a good deal. Quote
Brycecover Posted December 4, 2023 Author Posted December 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, r83srock said: The 150 has a dual bearing pinion gear so it will stay smoother longer with braid and heavy hook sets. The 100 is a nice reel also, I had 3 of them and wish I’d have kept them. Sounds like you found a good deal. So just get the 100 for the price? Quote
r83srock Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Brycecover said: So just get the 100 for the price? I would at that price! Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted December 4, 2023 Super User Posted December 4, 2023 I have three Tatula CT100H reels and one SLX 150. All of them have been good and are dependable. Quote
Brycecover Posted December 5, 2023 Author Posted December 5, 2023 8 hours ago, JNorman said: Curado 150 MGL can do everything Yeah looking at one of those. Had to return my tatula 80 so I’m still looking for another reel. 1 Quote
thediscochef Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 So I have a curado DC, tatula 100, and CT. I like the 100 a lot. I have it for my pitching/flipping combo (off hand side) and it is a great reel. It's a little smaller than the curado and the CT so it feels better in my hand, but not everyone has that experience. Any of those reels you listed is gonna work just fine I just like the feel of a tatula 100. I also really love the lews tournament pro, its the lightest weight reel I own and it's super comfortable to palm. And it throws everything Honestly though the best advice I can give you is to listen to what @PhishLI has to say about reels Quote
MiceNReets Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Brycecover said: Yeah looking at one of those. Had to return my tatula 80 so I’m still looking for another reel. Didn’t like the tatula 80? 1 Quote
Brycecover Posted December 5, 2023 Author Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, MiceNReets said: Didn’t like the tatula 80? It didn’t cast far and made a noise while casting. It was used 1 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted December 5, 2023 Super User Posted December 5, 2023 I would generally recommend the Tatula 100 or SV or Shimano SLX MGL 70. The latter will cast the furthest, the SV will have the best control and the 100 will provide decent control at a budget. If you plan to skip, get the SV it excels at skipping. Don’t let that one bad Shimano turn you off to them - that is definitely not normal. 1 Quote
r83srock Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Boomstick said: I would generally recommend the Tatula 100 or SV or Shimano SLX MGL 70. The latter will cast the furthest, the SV will have the best control and the 100 will provide decent control at a budget. If you plan to skip, get the SV it excels at skipping. Don’t let that one bad Shimano turn you off to them - that is definitely not normal. This is correct. The SLX mgl 70 is a special reel. It’s an effortless caster and excels at casting light lures but can handle flipping/pitching also. Can’t go wrong there, and in regards to comfort it’s the most palmable reel I’ve owned, very comfy! Lots of choices! 🐒 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 6, 2023 Super User Posted December 6, 2023 Shimano SLXMGL 70 is a sweet reel. Daiwa Tatula SV 70 is a good reel, smooth and quite but....narrow spool! Tom 1 Quote
Brycecover Posted December 6, 2023 Author Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, r83srock said: This is correct. The SLX mgl 70 is a special reel. It’s an effortless caster and excels at casting light lures but can handle flipping/pitching also. Can’t go wrong there, and in regards to comfort it’s the most palmable reel I’ve owned, very comfy! Lots of choices! 🐒 If I’m only going to cast down to 1/4 could I just get a slx mgl 150 size? Quote
r83srock Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 44 minutes ago, Brycecover said: If I’m only going to cast down to 1/4 could I just get a slx mgl 150 size? I’ve casted husky jerks, which are tough to cast real well with them, I’ve also punched matts with a 1oz pegged weight, no issues. You are really only limited by the spool size on that reel, if you are bombing frogs, swim baits, big cranks I’d look at something else. But a 40 yard cast with light lures is quite achievable. A lot of this is preference. Quote
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