papajoe222 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I'm looking for a fluorocarbon line with low stretch for my tube and small soft plastic presentations. I've been avoiding FC for most single hook presentations like jigs, as I've had issues with it breaking on hook sets. For my intended use of it, I'm not concerned with breaking off as I don't attempt to 'cross their eyes' when using those presentations. So, what is a good choice? Price is a concern for me as I plan to spool up with this line, but it isn't a deal breaker. I can always back it up with cheap mono. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 25, 2023 Super User Posted November 25, 2023 According to Chris' test a few years ago - the lowest stretch FC is Sniper. Currently on sale at ALF for $14 a spool. 3 Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted November 25, 2023 Super User Posted November 25, 2023 I’ve tried 3 or 4 brands and have settled on Seaguar red label. It is super strong and I haven’t noticed stretch. I have it in 12# on my jig and shaky setups as well as spinner bait. I also use it for leaders on my swim bait setups. I just bought my second 1000 yd spool. It came through Wal Mart they were cheaper than anyone else. I’ve tried it in 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, and 20# and settled on the 12 as my go to. It by far isn’t the most expensive but guys who regularly fish with me are switching over. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 25, 2023 Super User Posted November 25, 2023 The bottom line there isn’t‘ enough stretch to prevent knot failure with FC on a cross their eyes style hook set with FC, mono or copoly lines! the Hook set technique being used is exceeding the line impact strength. Try using the reel and firm rod sweep technique, work great with all lures and presentation where you cast lure over 30’. From years of, experience using FC no brand offers 100% knot strength, you want stronger knot strength use a size larger line diameter. Imo Seaguar Tatsu and Sunline Shooter are the top brands and types available. A test that hangs weight over a hour(s) time period isn’t a test of stretch it’s a test of yield over time and all plastic stretch time with force. The test for stretch is yield with pulling force over less then a minute, impact strength is force applied within a second. Tom 3 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 25, 2023 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 25, 2023 FC line stretch is one of the most over-hyped things in fishing, next to YouTubers. LOL Ya, it has some stretch compared to braid or mono, but it's not a rubber band, like some people make it sound. I've been using Seaguar InivizX for single-hook applications for many years without any issues. 6 2 Quote
waymont Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 ALL FC stretches. Take any and pull it, you will see/feel it stretch. 1 Quote
Fishingmickey Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 The following is IMHO hence all of the "I's". I like Fluorocarbon line especially for bottom contact baits. I feel it has a different stretch then Mono and it sinks. I think that Mono stretches over a wider tension range then Fluoro. I think Mono recovers from being stretched much better then Fluoro because it is nylon. I feel that it is definitely more sensitive then Mono for a couple of reasons. It's stiffer and it sinks with the bait much better equaling less bow in the line. I have tried many different type of Fluorocarbon and have settled on these three for my primary use, Seaguar Tatsu, Diawa Samuri and Seaguar Invisx. I felt that FC shooter and Sniper are very good strong lines but they are stiffer and have more memory then my above three. No, I don't use KVD line conditioner. FM Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 25, 2023 Super User Posted November 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, waymont said: ALL FC stretches. Take any and pull it, you will see/feel it stretch. Even Seaguar agrees. "Yes, fluorocarbon lines and leaders do stretch, but not as much as mono. Mainline typically has more stretch than leader. All Seaguar lines and leaders provide the optimum amount of shock impact/stretch." https://seaguar.com/pages/faqs 1 Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted November 25, 2023 Super User Posted November 25, 2023 I started using InivisX for t-rigs recently after after avoiding fluoro for a number of years due to a bad initial experience with breakoffs (i don't remember what the brand was, but it was probably the cheapest I could find). I haven't had any problems with InvisX that weren't obvious user error. It's not "low stretch", but most of the time my rod and the kayak I fish in have more give than the line does. Because it sinks, there is less bow in the line - i can get a sure hookset in a kayak with just a firm, quick, pull-back and reel. And the abrasion resistance is quite a bit better than the mono I was using previously. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 26, 2023 Super User Posted November 26, 2023 I have have had great luck with Sunline Sniper Invisible. At the US price, it's not worth it but with the JDM price, it makes easier to justify. I can't explain exactly how but it fishes differently than regular Sunline Sniper. It seems stronger and more sensitive. It does have some stretch but it's minimal and the initial pull is slower. I have been using 5lb and 12lb and caught numerous fish in the 3-5lb range with out issue. All of these were on 5lb this year. 1 Quote
RipzLipz Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 Not suggesting or debating anything, just noting my experiences in a summary format with 3 different 15lb test FC from Seaguar used as a main line (not braid & FC leader) on mostly MH or H baitcasting setups: I began my foray into FC with a 1000yd spool of InvisX. I was quite happy with the way it felt & performed on my usual haunts until a trip up to WI where rocks shredded it. I returned from the trip to WI & noticed whenever I’d fish around wood cover it seemed to shred less but it was noticeable to me & concerned me enough for me to try another offering. Got a 1000yd spool of AbrazX. Same lake up in WI, it abraded the line. Was fine on my home waters, which are mostly grass with some wood laydowns. Very little rock. Wasn't looking forward to increasing expenses for FC but I bit the bullet & bought a 1000yd spool of Tatsu. No shredding or abrading on the WI lake. Worked fine on my home waters. I’ve settled on Tatsu as my preferred line. I used each spool until they were very close to being empty or looked to be unable Yes, I was & am aware that once FC nicks, it’s likely to break easier, particularly on snap or hard hooksets on stiffer rods compared to other types of line. Yes, all 3 have broken on me at different times & for different reasons. I feel most of the time it has broken has been when I’ve failed to check my line routinely while fishing, mostly wood or rock cover. For spinning, I’ve only used mono & am fine with it. Quote
Bandersnatch Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 13 hours ago, MN Fisher said: According to Chris' test a few years ago - the lowest stretch FC is Sniper. Currently on sale at ALF for $14 a spool. Maybe the lowest stretch of lines tested. Not lower stretch than say shooter Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Ive found InvizX to be good as far as stretch goes, even in lighter tests, but a buddy of mine who fishes lots yak tourneys swears by Spro FC, called Goku or some Japanese sounding name. He likes to fish these big custom swimbaits in a certain lake that has standing timber and that's the line he likes to use because of its abrasion resistance is supposedly very high. Its not a costly line in comparison to others so I might try a spool next spring for my T rig/jig rod. Quote
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