Best way to put braid on Daiwa Elite P/F

[Cbump]

Hi all. It’s been a while. I started law school in august, so with full time job, evening classes, and son’s baseball I’ve been super busy. 
Only fished once since the beginning of August. 
Anyway, I hate Braid and last spring stripped any Braid I had off my casting reels. I lost a lot of lures when my line would catch in the spool for no reason and snap my knot. I watched two jackhammers fly off into oblivion and that was enough. 

 

However, I want to try again for a pitching/frog setup I put together. 
 

I’m thinking now maybe I had loose line on the spool or something. 
 

How should I put my line on? I’ve got 50lb pp. Should I use mono backing? Electrical tape? Do y’all put It on as tight as possible? 

[JohnFromLisbon]

Despite the shallower spool you should be able to get a few turns worth of stretchy mono in as backing. I'm not a fan of the electrical tape to secure line on the spool just in case the adhesive interacts with the line somehow.

[MN Fisher]

The CA-80 I use for pitching is about the same line capacity....I've got probably a dozen turns of mono on it before putting the 50# 832 on...shouldn't have an issue backing that P/F with mono.

 

Like John, I don't like electrical tape for this.

 

And ya - run the line through a washcloth gripping as tight as you can when spooling up braid.

[Bass Rutten]

Arbor knot, 2 layers/passes with similar diameter mono, back2back uni knot to main line, never had an issue.

 

Edit: Always keep an eye on the spool and repack the line as necessary if you see it laying funny to minimize the chance of backlashes.

[gim]

Another vote for mono backing here.

[PhishLI]

2 hours ago, Cbump said:

I hate Braid, however, I want to try again for a pitching/frog setup I put together. 

Tie the braid onto the spool with an arbor knot, then trim the tag end off.

 

Cut two squares of electrical tape approximately 3/8" x 3/8", preferably Scotch Super 33 because it's very soft which helps the line bite in.

 

Place one square of tape down centered over the line and onto the spool and press it down nicely. Rotate the spool 180 degrees, then place the second piece of tape down in the same fashion as to not unbalance the spool.

 

Wind on your braid and be done with it. I've been doing it this way for years and have NEVER had line slip happen once whether using 15lb braid or 50lb braid. The nature of the adhesive used on Super 33, and most others besides dollar store tape, is such that any residue left behind on the spool will easily wipe right off with a little alcohol on a Q-Tip. You'll never know it was there if you ever go to sell the reel.

[bulldog1935]

Electrical tape leaves forever messy residue.  

I use PE/acrylic film (mylar) tape, which sticks better and doesn't leave residue.  

 

 

I also use it for seizing knots on kayak trolley lines, and the tape lasts as long as the sailcord.  

 

When you want to take it off, it peels off - leaves Zero residue.  It's also 1/4 thickness of electrical tape.  

No need for any solvent.  Why - why schtupp with mess and solvent.  How much of that solvent vapor pressure is going to diffuse into and break down your reel lube.  

Everything about this tape is superior - it's thinner, it sticks better, doesn't slide or creep, it's stronger, lasts forever, comes off when you want - only when you want - and leaves Nothing behind.  I hope this thing is on.  

[PhishLI]

32 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

Electrical tape leaves forever messy residue.  

Sorry to disagree here, but I disagree. If 91% alcohol doesn't easily remove it, which it does, then mineral spirits absolutely will, and easily. I recently sold a bunch of reels that had all been backed with braid a few years ago using the method I prescribed above with the exact tape I suggested above and there wasn't a whiff of residue left behind. There may be a species of electrical tape that's problematic, but Super 33, or even Super 88, isn't one of them, and it's(they're) easily found everywhere.

[Bass Rutten]

Residue be gone! The best residue remover for metal 🤘🏻

[Cbump]

9 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Tie the braid onto the spool with an arbor knot, then trim the tag end off.

 

Cut two squares of electrical tape approximately 3/8" x 3/8", preferably Scotch Super 33 because it's very soft which helps the line bite in.

 

Place one square of tape down centered over the line and onto the spool and press it down nicely. Rotate the spool 180 degrees, then place the second piece of tape down in the same fashion as to not unbalance the spool.

 

Wind on your braid and be done with it. I've been doing it this way for years and have NEVER had line slip happen once whether using 15lb braid or 50lb braid. The nature of the adhesive used on Super 33, and most others besides dollar store tape, is such that any residue left behind on the spool will easily wipe right off with a little alcohol on a Q-Tip. You'll never know it was there if you ever go to sell the reel.

I did this.