1984isNOW Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Can anybody compare these two from experience? Daiwa website makes the difference seem negligible and essentially nothing that would impact fiction. With sale prices worth 40-50 bucks more for Elite? What about either compared to original SLX MgL in casting distance? Thinking buzzbait and windfunky lures Any insight is appreciated Quote
MiceNReets Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Tatula Elite hands down. It just feels like the gap between a zillion and tatula for sure. I have a couple tat elites and they’re flawless. Amazing casters and just very comfortable to use. Having said that. If you can I’d step it up to a JDM Zillion SV and don’t look back. as for the slx mgl. I have a couple as well and they’re a very good reel as well. I like them way better than the curados and they’re a reel I wouldn’t part with. The elite I can bomb cast farther but the slx mgl is no slouch for an effortless cast. I find the tatula 100 casts similar to the slx mgl aside from the slx mgl being much more effortless but the comparison is very minimal. Quote
GReb Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Buy the zillion. Don’t ask questions just do it. However the Elite is 100% worth $40 over the 100 to me. The aluminum handle side plate improves the feel and smoothness. Plus I just think quality control is better on the Elite than 100 from my experience 3 Quote
A kid from Canada Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 My Tat 100 was built loose like if I shook it around it would make clacking noises if that makes sense. I sold it and bought an elite, as mentioned the side plate is a worthy upgrade plus a nicer drag star. I also bought a Zillion from all the peer pressure that goes around on this forum and couldn't be happier. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted November 22, 2023 Super User Posted November 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Kites R4 Skyfishing said: Can anybody compare these two from experience? The new Tat 100 is brand new, so not too many have one. Daiwa's early promos claimed it has an aluminum side plate and lighter spool than the previous model, and if that's true it should be creeping up quite close to the Elite in build and performance. 2 Quote
1984isNOW Posted November 22, 2023 Author Posted November 22, 2023 @GReb @MiceNReets @A kid from Canada Having fished the Elite and Zillion - casting distance goes to which one? Bank fishing a buzzbait @PhishLI thanks for bringing the updated version to my attention- Quote
newapti5 Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 I'd take the JDM route and get a Zillion for less than $200, or a Tatula SV for $120-130 If distance is your goal, I feel that Metanium, Curado, or any Shimano reel with MGL should be your target. Daiwa reels aren't much about max distance but control. 2 Quote
A kid from Canada Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 I've never had my Elite and Zillion out at the same time to compare distance because I mostly bank fish and don't like laying combos on the ground but i havent noticed a huge difference. I agree that if distance is the main concern try a Shimano. Quote
1984isNOW Posted November 22, 2023 Author Posted November 22, 2023 It's not merely distance, buzzbaits catch wind and I was looking for something that can control it while letting it fly. I've heard Shimano does distance if you can do control, my thumb is still in training. Are Shimano centrifugal brakes like 13 fishing or other centrifugal brakes? Can there even be a difference? 8 hours ago, newapti5 said: I'd take the JDM route and get a Zillion for less than $200 Which Zillion cast the furthest? I keep hearing SV Daiwa or nore braked than others Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted November 22, 2023 Super User Posted November 22, 2023 Both reels will work for you. The Elite has less braking overall but casts notably further than other Tatulas which is it’s primary advantage. I bought one for this purpose for crankbaits and it definitely does get me more distance. The SLX MGL 70 casts further than both and imo brakes a little better than the Elite too (for long casts) but not as good as the 100. Quote
1984isNOW Posted November 22, 2023 Author Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Boomstick said: The SLX MGL 70 casts further than both and imo brakes a little better than the Elite too You mean the original SLX MGL or the updated one? Casts farther than the $250 Elite and brakes better than it does? Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted November 22, 2023 Super User Posted November 22, 2023 My buzzbait reel is a Fuego w 40 lb braid. I can totally lay into the cast while casting into the wind and in the dark and get great distance with standard Mag Z. It’s surprising and It’s trouble free. Can’t say the same for my other reels. I don’t bother using anything else anymore for this. You’ll be fine with a standard tatula. The new zillion sv isn’t like a tatula sv. Much better distance caster with sv boost. It doesn’t feel choked off unless you juice the brakes up. Get your casting stroke down and you’ll be able to turn the brakes down. Then it’ll bomb as good as anything. 1 Quote
1984isNOW Posted November 22, 2023 Author Posted November 22, 2023 @PhishLI okay cool, maybe I'll try a buzz on my old tatula CT. Maybe I dont need a new reel. Maybe I just saved a hundred bucks. Maybe I owe ya one Thanks Maybe 😉 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted November 22, 2023 Super User Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 10:49 AM, Kites R4 Skyfishing said: You mean the original SLX MGL or the updated one? Casts farther than the $250 Elite and brakes better than it does? This thing. It’s absolutely phenomenal for casting long distances even with light lures. The brakes are really dialed for long casts - I prefer the Daiwa brakes for pitching and skipping and short targeted casts though. The Curado MGL 70 behaves very similarly but runs maybe another $100 or close https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shimano_SLX_MGL_70_Casting_Reels/descpage-SSLXMG7.html Quote
newapti5 Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 11 hours ago, Kites R4 Skyfishing said: Which Zillion cast the furthest? I keep hearing SV Daiwa or nore braked than others They're about the same. The newest Zillion may have a small advantage on distance over the older ones, but the point is its durability and versatility. With a 34mm spool, the new Zillion has so many different spool options for any lure weight. Quote
lynxcat Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 I have both the Elite and 100…I got the 100 for like $75 on a steal of a deal. It’s great for what it is but the Elite is better build quality. I can throw plenty far with either. Quote
waymont Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 1:55 AM, newapti5 said: I'd take the JDM route and get a Zillion for less than $200 Where? New? Quote
LonnieP Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 I have a 100 and a long cast Elite. The Elite feels like a better quality reel than the 100. You can get a JDM Zillion for less than the Elite. The Zillion is a far better reel than the Elite Quote
thediscochef Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 I had an elite, I returned it because of a factory defect with the bearings. I returned it for my curado DC instead of exchanging. I regret that decision after spending some time with the DC. If you have the money get the elite 100% or get a JDM Zillion SV, probably the best value. The JDM will be your best flipping/pitching reel of the three. By a mile. If you're trying to keep from spending as much I would get the 100. I just ordered one Quote
newapti5 Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 19 hours ago, waymont said: Where? New? No, used ones, but in mint condition. Yahoo Japan, Mercari, Rakuten... there're many listings if you are willing to spend some time to look. I just helped my fishing buddy purchase a mint condition Metanium for $150 tyd. Quote
zeth Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 Personally, it depends on your needs. My default is Tatula 100. I have the elites on things I need to cast far and want better performance on although the 100 is fine. The difference is small. Lighter spool is the main difference. If I were throwing buzzbaits it would be on a 100. If you can get a deal on the 100 and not the Elite get the 100 for sure. If you have the money to spend and neither are on sale then get the Elite. FYI Elite on Amazon is under $200. 1 Quote
1984isNOW Posted November 24, 2023 Author Posted November 24, 2023 I appreciate all the input y'all, I think I'm just gonna keep my money and try throwing my buzzbait on my old tatula CT. I'll throw some 40# braid on and see what happens. Or keep it on my Zillion, I throw buzzbaits more than anything so why not use my best reel I guess... maybe 10-20ft loss in distance with the SV but it might as well be used the most 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted November 24, 2023 Super User Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, zeth said: . FYI Elite on Amazon is under $200. Link please. A-Jay Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 24, 2023 Super User Posted November 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Link please. A-Jay https://www.amazon.com/Daiwa-Tatula-Elite-Baitcasting-Reel/dp/B07VXC5LPS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HPWXCZLB40FU&keywords=Tatula%2BElite&qid=1700852239&sprefix=tatula%2Beli%2Caps%2C833&sr=8-1&th=1 Note: the only ones at or under $200 are the LH 6.3, LH 8.1 and RH 8.1 RH & LH 7.1 are $223 and RH 6.3 is $238 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted November 24, 2023 Super User Posted November 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: https://www.amazon.com/Daiwa-Tatula-Elite-Baitcasting-Reel/dp/B07VXC5LPS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HPWXCZLB40FU&keywords=Tatula%2BElite&qid=1700852239&sprefix=tatula%2Beli%2Caps%2C833&sr=8-1&th=1 Note: the only ones at or under $200 are the LH 6.3, LH 8.1 and RH 8.1 RH & LH 7.1 are $223 and RH 6.3 is $238 Thanks. I don't swing that way. Not that there's anything wrong with. A-Jay 1 Quote
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