Dan N Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 Hey, basically just what you try when that plan isn’t working? I guess I should add, I was snagging those shad while casting various cranks 3 Quote
Super User webertime Posted November 19, 2023 Super User Posted November 19, 2023 Something bigger and slightly different (color splash somewhere). Fished below the school of bait. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 19, 2023 Super User Posted November 19, 2023 If the Shad are balled up a structure spoon or tail sin is my 1st choice. Tom 1 Quote
Super User GreenPig Posted November 19, 2023 Super User Posted November 19, 2023 I catch a pile of fish on a jigging spoons when shad are present. You can fish the entire column of water, steady retrieve, yo - yo, or burn across the surface. 3 Quote
softwateronly Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 If they're busting the shad at the surface, tightlining a flutter spoon all the way (well almost all the way) down can get your rod yanked from your hand. I've had 2 jigging spoons, white and silver, a tailspin, and a flutter spoon strewn across my deck all weekend. First light/last light and each day, had different 1st choices. Fish are weird. scott 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 20, 2023 Super User Posted November 20, 2023 Match the hatch applies to trout fly fisherman more then bass anglers imo. When bass are focused on live Shad, especially during the spring Shad spawn, few if any lures will be effective unless the lure tricks a strike from what the bass is looking for...a live Shad. Catch and fly line a live Shad on light line and small hook it’s instant bite. Fall Shad schools are a different situation and you can get strikes on Shad profile and color lures especially spoons falling through the Shad schools. Bass jigs sort of look like a crawdad, not a match but something the see’s as prey. The perfect crawdad match is less effective then a real live crawdad. I try to use lures coloration the bass can see and mistake for the real thing in lieu trying to use real like fakes because that imo is impossible. Tom Quote
rgasr63 Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Something that doesn't rattle? Then maybe a minnow profile,Soft plastic swimmer,4in exoswim? I am not really good with a spoon unless I am fishing vertical. A spoon might be the good choice where you are. Quote
Super User Bankc Posted November 20, 2023 Super User Posted November 20, 2023 You want to stick out while blending in. The idea is to make it look like a shad, while making it stand out from all of the other shad. Sometimes color or size can do this. Sometimes it's action. If you blend in too much, then the bass won't focus on your bait. But if you stand out too much, they won't see it as prey. Spoons are good for this, because they look like a shad that was already attacked and injured, but not eaten. So they're an easy meal. Bass will often attack from below, so sometimes a crankbait pulled in from just below the rest of the shad will catch a strike. Often times, one that's slightly bigger or a more vibrant pattern will attract the bass. Those are my two preferred baits for this situation, though I'm sure a lot of other things will work too. I've also had luck with hard swimbaits reeled fast. Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 The only time when I'm really concerned about match the hatch is when I know the fish are keyed in on that bait and actively feeding and even then I'm more concerned with profile and relative size then matching the color dead on. Quote
Dan N Posted November 23, 2023 Author Posted November 23, 2023 I guess I should add, I was snagging those shad while casting various cranks Quote
Dan N Posted November 23, 2023 Author Posted November 23, 2023 Thanks for the replies. I ended up getting a few on a ned rig very slowly retrieving along bottom. today I got them on a Rapala DT 6 , dragging super slow along bottom. It has a very slow rise. I would literally just stop reeling. Tough bite , glad to get a few. 3 Quote
Pat Brown Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Dan N said: Thanks for the replies. I ended up getting a few on a ned rig very slowly retrieving along bottom. today I got them on a Rapala DT 6 , dragging super slow along bottom. It has a very slow rise. I would literally just stop reeling. Tough bite , glad to get a few. Nice one! I often have to do this with crankbaits and Swimbaits when it gets cold. Low and slow is the way to go with fast moving baits! 1 Quote
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