ElGuapo928 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Slipknot_Fan666 said: I run straight braid. I prefer the way it handles. I can’t do the leader thing. I’ve given it many opportunities and it’s just too much of a hassle when lose a lure and have to tie on another leader. Seems like a waste of time. Same here. No matter how you slice it, it’s a failure point added in. I do use a leader when Mojo/splitshotting, but behind a swivel. I also will use a piece of mono or fluorocarbon for my “drop” below the hook on a dropshot rig (I pretty much exclusively use “Spinshot” or “Swivelshot” hooks). 1 Quote
FishTax Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 What do you straight braid guys do when you need to break off and you've got 50 lb line on? I am constantly in trees and rocks and this is one reason I've moved away from it, I hate cutting it with scissors and leaving line in water, and can't figure out how to break it otherwise. I guess my knots are pretty good 😂 1 Quote
33oldtimer Posted November 18, 2023 Author Posted November 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, FishTax said: What do you straight braid guys do when you need to break off and you've got 50 lb line on? I am constantly in trees and rocks and this is one reason I've moved away from it, I hate cutting it with scissors and leaving line in water, and can't figure out how to break it otherwise. I guess my knots are pretty good 😂 That was my thought as well. Without a leader you break something or cut your line. I can't stand to see braid in the water where it's been cut. 2 days ago I was fishing a ned and got hung up on a deadfall. It broke off at the leader on my spinning setup below the braid. Fishing the same setup later I didn't realize the deadfall snag had damaged the braid just above the leader. I made a cast and the lure and leader and small section of braid at the damaged area went sailing out into the water. Even on spinning gear braid is becoming a PITA. 1 Quote
ElGuapo928 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 I don’t think I’ve ever been in a situation where I absolutely had to break it off. (Granted, I don’t run any braid over 30lb, and I’m down to 8lb braid on the spinning rigs). Usually I go chase the snag, deal with it and move on. A telescopic lure retriever and a “hound dog” have pretty much eliminated intentional breakoffs for me. 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted November 18, 2023 Super User Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, FishTax said: What do you straight braid guys do when you need to break off and you've got 50 lb line on? I am constantly in trees and rocks and this is one reason I've moved away from it, I hate cutting it with scissors and leaving line in water, and can't figure out how to break it otherwise. I guess my knots are pretty good 😂 You wrap it around a wood dowel and either get your lure back or break a hook or pull in a dead body. Either way you lose a lot less stuff. 3 Quote
detroit1 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 I dislike braid on baitcasters, so i only have it on 1 rig that i use for frog / pike fishing. 2 spin rigs get 12# braid - d/s and senko/fluke rod. Trilene xl on my other 9 set-ups. Hate floro and never tried co-poly. Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted November 18, 2023 Super User Posted November 18, 2023 This line discussion is just like one on the ANY car forum about MOTOR OILS. hahahha love it. 1 1 Quote
FishTax Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 hour ago, ElGuapo928 said: I don’t think I’ve ever been in a situation where I absolutely had to break it off. (Granted, I don’t run any braid over 30lb, and I’m down to 8lb braid on the spinning rigs). Usually I go chase the snag, deal with it and move on. A telescopic lure retriever and a “hound dog” have pretty much eliminated intentional breakoffs for me. I don’t have a lure retriever, I guess I should get one. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 18, 2023 Super User Posted November 18, 2023 2 hours ago, ElGuapo928 said: I don’t think I’ve ever been in a situation where I absolutely had to break it off. So you never fish deep water? Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted November 18, 2023 Super User Posted November 18, 2023 In all of my braid applications, I am either fishing shallow pitching with a baitcaster or dragging baits with spinning. Pitching I can normally almost reach the bait with the rod and dragging, I can get on top of the bait which is normally in 5-15ft and either break it at the bait or straighten the hook. I don’t use any braid other than 35 and 50lb test depending on the application. Never have needed or rigged a leader. 1 Quote
ElGuapo928 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, Catt said: So you never fish deep water? Pretty much spend all summer in 40-80 feet. Occasionally shear off a dropshot or football head, but never intentionally. Quote
33oldtimer Posted November 18, 2023 Author Posted November 18, 2023 4 hours ago, FishTax said: What do you straight braid guys do when you need to break off and you've got 50 lb line on? I am constantly in trees and rocks and this is one reason I've moved away from it, I hate cutting it with scissors and leaving line in water, and can't figure out how to break it otherwise. I guess my knots are pretty good 😂 Bank fisherman. Lots of wood and rocks where I fish. 2 Quote
ElGuapo928 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, FishTax said: I don’t have a lure retriever, I guess I should get one. There’s a lot of different versions out there - I like the hound dog just because I’ve had it for 20 or so years. Let it slide down the line and knock your bait loose. The telescopic ones are best for above the water snags - I had a $2.99 Goodwill golf ball retriever for ever before I got a Dotline. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted November 18, 2023 Super User Posted November 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, ElGuapo928 said: but never intentionally. Who does? This is what the bottom of our lakes look like. Ya gonna hang up 3 Quote
ElGuapo928 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Catt said: Who does? This is what the bottom of our lakes look like. Ya gonna hang up Believe me, Roosevelt Lake is called “the jungle” for a reason. Hangups are a constant event. Hell, you haven’t lived until you reel in part of a cactus. Here’s a pic representative of the first 30’ of depth (turtle is a bonus). 3 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted November 18, 2023 Super User Posted November 18, 2023 I want to fish Rosevelt one day. I'll road trip by with my kayak. maybe August Quote
ElGuapo928 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: I want to fish Rosevelt one day. I'll road trip by with my kayak. maybe August August is great at night! Quote
Super User bowhunter63 Posted November 18, 2023 Super User Posted November 18, 2023 Mono all the way. Like fast action rods with it Quote
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