Ohioguy25 Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 I generally find them to be only actively chasing lures when the water is in the low 60s and upper 50s, and once it gets below 55 I have to really slow it to a crawl (jerkbait/finesse.) Every time the notorious “fall bite” rolls around, I see all sorts of ideas start to fly. People insist they will eat topwater, spinnerbaits, swimbaits etc into the low 50s and upper 40s, many even proclaiming that this continues down to 45. Yes I realize there are obvious exceptions, and worked slowly enough they will eat anything, even a rico or a spook but as a whole it’s just not consistent. I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong but I have found this to be entirely inaccurate, and only really have success on Ned rig, tube, fluke, jerkbait etc at those temperatures. Quote
IndianaOutdoors Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I am actively trying to learn about this topic and how it applies to my rivers this time of year. My water was upper 40s last week. Im not catching huge numbers but I have been catching them on spinner baits, underspins and umbrella rig. I'm fishing rivers and they have been too choked with leaves to fish treble hooked baits. I caught one today on a finesse jig but I was moving it along pretty fast. I'm trying to find smallmouth on the upper end of impoundments and up into the feeding rivers. It seems I have to go upstream to cleaner moving water before I get any bites. If the leaves have cleared out a bit I'll be throwing jerkbaits next time out. 2 Quote
PaulVE64 Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I must admit that I find it difficult to believe that speed cranking can work in cold water and yet some really great fishermen have sucsess doing it. It probably doesn't work for me because I give up on it too quickly. 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted November 7, 2023 Global Moderator Posted November 7, 2023 21” and a 20” shortly thereafter on December 23 2016. Trolling crankbaits downstream 3.0 mph. Water temp 50 8 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted November 7, 2023 BassResource.com Administrator Posted November 7, 2023 I've caught several 3+ pounders on small (3") Rapala minnows in 40-degree water. No, not "upper 40's". I mean 40-41 degrees. Clear, moving water after a few days of stable weather was the key. I've also caught some pigs in deep water (45+) dragging what is essentially a modified walleye rig, with the same small minnow on the end. Yes, it's a brilliant way of getting small, shallow-diving crankbaits into deep water where the big girls lay in wait. Not my idea, but a good friend taught me that little trick. Again, a few days of stable weather is the key. But current is not a factor in the above scenario. In both cases, fast-moving lures were critical. They wouldn't hit them if they were crawled. 8 Quote
PourMyOwn Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I've had a lot of success at ice out throwing a DD22. 1 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 For me in the susky I feel them pick it right up off the bottom this time of year Tube, ned, mr twister. Moving baits never seem to be the ticket here sub 50 water temp. Jerkbaits even tend to fall to the wayside for me too. Quote
galyonj Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 9 hours ago, Glenn said: In both cases, fast-moving lures were critical. They wouldn't hit them if they were crawled. I think a lot of people underestimate how fast fish can move – in almost any water temperature – when they're properly motivated. Once you find the fish, you have to listen to what they're telling you. 2 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 @galyonj it’s usually a one sided conversation. 1 5 Quote
Reel Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 I live way north and fish in November so I fish when the water is cold. It depends on the weather. A nice warming trend with each day 1 or 2 degrees warmer and no wind is ideal. I can catch smallmouth on the surface then or using jerkbaits. I find them in a couple of feet of water warming themselves. They will also bite slow moving lures. 2 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Posted November 7, 2023 18 hours ago, Glenn said: I've caught several 3+ pounders on small (3") Rapala minnows in 40-degree water. No, not "upper 40's". I mean 40-41 degrees. Clear, moving water after a few days of stable weather was the key. I've also caught some pigs in deep water (45+) dragging what is essentially a modified walleye rig, with the same small minnow on the end. Yes, it's a brilliant way of getting small, shallow-diving crankbaits into deep water where the big girls lay in wait. Not my idea, but a good friend taught me that little trick. Again, a few days of stable weather is the key. But current is not a factor in the above scenario. In both cases, fast-moving lures were critical. They wouldn't hit them if they were crawled. I don’t think these tactics really match the pattern I’m describing, reaction strikes or putting it right in their face is not quite the same as chasing. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 19, 2023 Super User Posted November 19, 2023 I will find out tomorrow. The water temps should be in the low 50's. I will burning a Tactical DD 75 in about 15-20 feet of water, ripping some jerkbaits and some small minnow baits. If that doesn't work, I will switch over to wacky rigged senkos and a A-rig. Last resort, I will hit the 20-30 foot mark with an OSP Blitz Magnum EX-DR. 2 Quote
Super User gim Posted November 19, 2023 Super User Posted November 19, 2023 @Ohioguy25 maybe river smallmouth behave differently than their lake cousins. You didn't specify which ones you were targeting, but I am pretty sure you are a river guy. I never had any success in rivers once temps started to drop. The best bite was midsummer in July and August here when the water was bathtub warm. I fished aggressively with topwater and other faster moving lures. This was in a smaller, swift-moving river, not a big reservoir or impoundment. Exact opposite in the lake. Midsummer is offshore drop shot time for the scopers. That is definitely not me. So I wait until the temps drop and then target them with more aggressive tactics. This past fall I did really well in early October when the water temps were in the mid 50's. @Dwight Hottle mentioned earlier this fall that I should be targeting smallmouth when the water temps are similar to what they were in the spring during pre-spawn and sure enough, mid 50's was exactly when it was productive in both the spring and fall. 3 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted November 20, 2023 Super User Posted November 20, 2023 Water temps today were around 55 degrees. I tried a jig, a senko, and various crankbaits but little minnow baits were on fire. I was letting it drop to the bottom and doing a burn and pause. Everything I caught was on BFS gear and 5lb FC. 3 Quote
Harold Standish Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Below 55 degrees everything change. TRD's and slow moving Blade baits dragged across the bottom. seems to the ticket 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted March 14, 2024 Super User Posted March 14, 2024 For River SM this is what I found works at different temps: 33-39 Degrees Hair jigs, more hair jigs, maybe 2.5" tubes closer to 39. 30-44 Degrees small tubes 2.5- 3.5" fished slow. 45 Degrees is the magic number where I can start catching them on hardbaits. Jerkbaits and silent crankbaits start working. One of the best days I have had for SM on the Potomac was a mild winter, water temp 46 degrees, caught 32 on a LC RC 1.5 in Bull Bream. Allen 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 14, 2024 Global Moderator Posted March 14, 2024 I got a 16” SMB with a crankbait Monday morning in some cold water. Not sure how cold but it was 31 air temp at sunrise 1 Quote
Ohioguy25 Posted March 14, 2024 Author Posted March 14, 2024 14 hours ago, Munkin said: For River SM this is what I found works at different temps: 33-39 Degrees Hair jigs, more hair jigs, maybe 2.5" tubes closer to 39. 30-44 Degrees small tubes 2.5- 3.5" fished slow. 45 Degrees is the magic number where I can start catching them on hardbaits. Jerkbaits and silent crankbaits start working. One of the best days I have had for SM on the Potomac was a mild winter, water temp 46 degrees, caught 32 on a LC RC 1.5 in Bull Bream. Allen I suppose it varies by region Quote
Dye99 Posted April 20, 2024 Posted April 20, 2024 I find that when it comes to low temps and moving baits its all about WHAT moving baits. Griffon cranks, Okashira heads with small swimbaits, vision 110 jr, slow rolling jackhammers or spinner baits all work really well for me into the 40s. Top water is tougher, I have not had much luck with topwater smallie bite except mid summer, right before light. Then it cuts off for me. My rule of thumb is the colder it is, the smaller the bait, and slower retrieve.. 2 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted April 21, 2024 Super User Posted April 21, 2024 Ohioguy25, the coldest water I've ever fished for smallmouth was northwestern Ontario is late October. The water was cold and the air was cold, but the fishing was hot. A-Jay catches big cold water bass. Quote
pdxfisher Posted April 22, 2024 Posted April 22, 2024 I usually start fishing smallmouth when water temp is around 45. They usually hit moving baits really well by that time of the year around here. Each year I think I should start earlier. Personally I think fish activity and staging has more to do with the length of the day and the angle of the sun than the water temp. 1 Quote
PaulVE64 Posted April 23, 2024 Posted April 23, 2024 My river is just breaking into the 40s. And despite high muddy conditions I caught two +17" smallies on a black hair jig off the bank at lunch. 1 Quote
PABASS Posted April 23, 2024 Posted April 23, 2024 Susky river month ago hammered SMB on Jerbaits, underspin's, jigs. Biggest fish 3#s plus came off a jerkbait 3 second pause. Local lakes LMB temps under 45F caught them on chatter baits and jerkbaits. My son using a ned rig caught a few more then me all smaller. SMB I will fish for topwater in mid 50s, bass are more aggressive in cold water then you think, especially in a warming trend/sunny. When they are targeting fish oriented prey its easier with moving baits, which around here most tend to do in the spring and late fall. Quote
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