Reel Grease & Oil

[Deuceu72]

O.k. so, I know that when you normally buy a reel, they have a little picture in there that shows where to apply reel grease and oil. Unfortunatly, I never look at those and now I wish I did. I have no idea where to apply oil or grease on my reels. If someone has a picture(and that's important as I am not too mechanically inclined) as to where to apply, that would be greatly appreciated! Mu buddy said to me, "you put the grease on moving parts and the oil blah, blah, blah.........I really could use a picture of where to apply not directions..........a link would be helpful as well.  Thanks all!  ;D

[Grey Wolf]

You should talk to Reel Mech.

[Raul]

If it is gearing = grease

If it is bearing = oil

Any part that is in contact with the frame = grease.

Any threaded part ( screws ) = oil ( like the tension knob cap )

[Guest DavidGreen]

Deuceu72,

I don't know of any links to lubrication pictures. Maybe I should take the time to produce some for my web site...

The basics of lubrication go as follows.

Baitcaster:

Oil-(1-2 drops of oil only) Spool Shaft Shims, Handle Knobs (both sides), Spool Release Mechanism (button or thumbar), Level-Wind Stabilizer Bar, Level-Wind Worm Gear, Line Carriage Pawl, and Ball Bearings.

Spinning:

Oil- Handle Knobs (both ends), Bail Hinge (both side of rotor), Kick Lever Mechanism, Bail Spring, Bail Spring Holders, Roller Bushing, and Ball Bearings.

Greasing for either of these reel should be done by a qualified service shop, as it is only used on the internal drive gears of the reel. (Never use grease on any part of the reel that is exposed to the elements....

Hope this helps.

Tight Lines!!!

[Raul]

Drags carry DRAG GREASE.

[lubina]

Are you using  Quantum Hot Sauce Raul?

[Deuceu72]

O.K.......This is EXACTLY why this website is so killer! Everyone is so helpful and there is nothing you cannot learn here! ;D ;D ;D.............ReelMech and Raul..............Thanks A Ton!!!!!! (Especially for the pictures!!!!!) You guys are the BEST!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

[Guest DavidGreen]

Yup thats the sticky red stuff in there.....  :'(

[Deuceu72]

Why the frown ReelMech? quantum hot sauce not good?

[Guest DavidGreen]

I personally just don't like the stuff, never have.

But it is good for Rauls illustrations.

[Raul]

Are you using Quantum Hot Sauce Raul?

Nope !

The man is killing the reel..........look at all that BLOOOOOOD !  

As for grease, I use Penn Blue grease ( bought a small jar about 20 years ago and it ain 't over yet ); for oil I use either Shimano reel oil or Daiwa reel oil, in reels with "wet" drag systems I use Shimano drag grease. ( Do not grease Daiwa drags ).

Greasing the reel can be done every 3-4 months for the regular weekend angler ( only a couple of days a week ), the bearings supporting the spool benefit from a drop of oil every other trip, those are the ones most submitted to punishment.

[.ghoti.]

UH-OH, it's sounds like I've been screwing up. I've been using grease on the levelwind systems on all of my reels for years. What's wrong with that, and, what have I done to the reel using grease where I should have been using oil?

It looks like I've been doing the rest of it correctly, except for the bearing under the crankshaft. Don't know if it's called a crankshaft. It's the spindle that the handle mounts to. Under it, at the very bottom, is a small ball bearing in some reels. I've been using grease on it too.

Operating on the theory that the slow moving parts get greas, and the high speed parts get oil, It looks like I've been making some mistakes.

Live and learn.

Thanks for the info.

Cheers,

GK

[Lucky Craft Man]

I'm confused.  I have always used grease on the internal gears only and oiled everything else, but the guy on Tackletour greased the hell out of that reel (link below).  Have I been lubricating my reels wrong all this time?

http://www.tackletour.com/articlereelmaintenancedaiwatdsol.html

[BASS fisherman]

This is the diagram I talked about earlier, but I doubt this helps much at all.

[lubina]

Are you using Quantum Hot Sauce Raul?

( Do not grease Daiwa drags ).

quote]

Good point, except for the Zillion, he is wet.

I clean and oil my reels about once a month ( professionaly once a year ) but I fish 3-4 times a week year around.

I use ReelMech grease and oil.

[Raul]

I did not mention the Zillion for a reason, the reel is too new so I don 't think that if you 've got a Zillion it 's going to need grease on the drag washers right now.

[lubina]

I did not mention the Zillion for a reason, the reel is too new so I don 't think that if you 've got a Zillion it 's going to need grease on the drag washers right now.

Good point ;D ;D ;D I don't have one yet ....but is coming Perfect frog reel 8-)

[Raul]

Got the fast one ?

[Guest DavidGreen]

ghoti,

Operating on the theory that the slow moving parts get greas, and the high speed parts get oil, It looks like I've been making some mistakes.

Depends on how old the theory your talking about is.

I've been using grease on the levelwind systems on all of my reels for years. What's wrong with that, and, what have I done to the reel using grease where I should have been using oil?

The truth is that you do not use any grease on the exterior of the reel. I E worm gears, as was told in the tackletour article, will pick up all kinds of debris.

Most anglers don't check their reels as often as a service tech does. So any grease with dirt and or other crud in the worm gear will cause wear on the pawl, and the fluts of the worm gear.

Soon you start to get line stacking which is usually caused by a sticking level wind (line carriage for you Garcia folks).

This is why new school theory is oil on the worm gear.

You can also get the same thing from to much oil on a stabilizer bar (for you Shimano® folks) it will cause the line carriage to stick and most anglers think that adding oil will solve the problem. It does for a while (But so would dunking the reel). No oil on a stabilizer bar, crud will collect and start the sticking process.

I might make a note here. Grease in a reel is not, I repeat not, as mach of a lubricant as you would think. It is used more as a moisture barrier and parts holder (during assembly and re-assembly). Moisture is the major cause of corrosion and oxidation (especially on long boat rides from the manufacturer to the states), and one of the leading causes of internal part failure.

Many anglers and self-trained service tech's first open a reel, and see where the factory placed the grease and the amounts during assembly, and try to reproduce the same thing. This is were they go wrong, the grease and the amount used was during assembly to hold parts in place, and to protect from moisture during the long boat ride here.

Lucky Craft Man,

I have always used grease on the internal gears only and oiled everything else, but the guy on Tackletour greased the hell out of that reel (link below).  Have I been lubricating my reels wrong all this time?

NO!

BASS fisherman,

That's from an older Garcia® owners manual I would almost say it was late 70's early 80's..

But it is the basics....

If lubina were to brake open one of the reels that I have just serviced for him, he would see very little grease in the reel. As a matter of fact he would hardly notice any oils either. But yet the reels crank just as smooth if not smoother, and have as much if not more free spool as they did when they first came out of the box.

It all boils down to the quality, knowledge of placement, and proper amounts of lubrication used.

Just my .25¢

Tight Lines!!!  

[lubina]

Got the fast one ?

It is on the plannig  ;D

[HomersTomaco]

wow, you really went hot sauce crazy.  That is exactly why I dont like the stuff.  All the red is leftover residue... that can't be good.

[lubina]

Got the fast one ?

What the heck I just ordered.

Yeap 31 ipt and 13 lbs of drag.