Megabass Destroyer P5 F0-66X Siglett (BFS comparison)

[speakingofjared]

Hello all,

    I recently picked up a MB destroyer siglett and am using it to cast small jerkbaits (pointer 48 & 65, mb x-70), small topwater (mb baby pop-x), and small cranks. Occasionally casting small jigs/jigheads (under 1/8oz) I plan to keep using baits in that 1/16 to 3/16oz range.

   The problem with the siglett is, it is (definitely as describe) "ultra-ultralight". Casting 1/16oz and 1/10oz lures is enjoyable, but the rod quickly becomes sluggish after 1/8oz.

   The secondary problem is that when I throw on a single hook lure, not matter the weight, there is absolutely no hook-setting power. I understand BFS is going to be a lighter all around, and its not like hammering home a 3/0 hook with a heavy action rod. But when I mean it had no hook-setting power, i was continually loosing fish with size #2 keitech ball head jigs.

 

   Question here is: can i swap this rod out for the F1 popx stick, or even F2 criffhanger, and get a tiny more "umph" in the rod, while still being able to throw those small pointer 48s and yo-zuri pin minnows (both 1/16oz and the lightest lure i cast)

 

Thanks for your time!

[FishTank]

I have the Siglett as well. I wouldn't trade it in. It's really designed for top water and treble hook baits.

 

I have used it for the same Keitech jig as you and that jig, no matter what rod you use, is difficult to set the hook on a good sized bass. Also, the hook can bend out on a more powerful rod with these little jigs. 

 

I also have the Criffhanger and the Six Eleven. Both of these rods are about double the power of the Siglett. I would look into the Kistler Hunt BFS or the Dobyns Sierra Ulta-Finesse 700C. Both of these,  all though different,  will do the job.

[KP Duty]

While I don't have the siglett, I have a yamaga blanks 69b that I use for ultra light moving baits.  I wouldn't even attempt to set the hook on anything with it.  Like fishtank said, I'd keep it for the baits you've successfully used, and add a rod with a little more backbone for micro jigs and tiny t-rigs.  I  want to try the new phenix bfs rod, but I haven't used enough bfs sticks to steer you towards what you are looking for.

[speakingofjared]

On 10/23/2023 at 4:59 PM, FishTank said:

I have the Siglett as well. I wouldn't trade it in. It's really designed for top water and treble hook baits.

 

I have used it for the same Keitech jig as you and that jig, no matter what rod you use, is difficult to set the hook on a good sized bass. Also, the hook can bend out on a more powerful rod with these little jigs. 

 

I also have the Criffhanger and the Six Eleven. Both of these rods are about double the power of the Siglett. I would look into the Kistler Hunt BFS or the Dobyns Sierra Ulta-Finesse 700C. Both of these,  all though different,  will do the job.

 

Thanks! I am going to keep the siglett as a my main trout UL (light trebles and spinners). If i feel the need to upgrade to something for light finesse single hook applications, I may go the spinning rod route!

7 hours ago, KP Duty said:

While I don't have the siglett, I have a yamaga blanks 69b that I use for ultra light moving baits.  I wouldn't even attempt to set the hook on anything with it.  Like fishtank said, I'd keep it for the baits you've successfully used, and add a rod with a little more backbone for micro jigs and tiny t-rigs.  I  want to try the new phenix bfs rod, but I haven't used enough bfs sticks to steer you towards what you are looking for.

 

Agreed. I also don't know that I really BFS fish enough times to warrant a second rod on deck. Maybe a more universal light spinning rod is a better second choice for UL finesse plastics

[bulldog1935]

XUL rods can be wonderful for their niche of casting distance and fishing light-touch with XUL lures, and the two rods above sound like jewels in that niche.  These rods will replace UL spinning, and still have good butt power for turning fish.  Also as mentioned, they may not strike bass the way you want.  Here's my buddy Alex with a spinning XUL he built from a fly rod blank.  

 

I was fishing a fly rod the same day with Alex - we were wading and bank fishing a private-access impounded creek noted for 4-5-lb bass in pods.  (Below, I'm fishing the same water with Kevin Townsend, of course, filming a fly-rod TV show)

When I went looking for a bass-specific baitfinesse rod, for reservoir fishing from kayak, 1/16 oz low-end capability was primary, but I limited my search to the highest top-end I could find - I didn't quit at 3/8 oz, but narrowed my rods search to 1/2- and 5/8-oz top end.  This gets into ML and MM rods, and I couldn't be more delighted with the Valleyhill rod I found, which covers me for 1/15 oz Neds and finesse spinnerbaits to mid-weight crankbaits, and can go out alone on my kayak.  

It's unfortunate that both rod series Valleyhill built on this blank are OOS and apparently out of production.  The JDM market changes so quickly, you have to "keep your eyes peeled" to find a perfect niche rod.  

But both XUL rods discussed above will give you more feel fishing unweighted plastic and XUL topwater.