Scorpion 1000 noise issue

[Ted]

I have 2 Shimano Scorpion 1000's.

One of them is worse but they both have "scraping" sound on retrieve.

I have cleaned and lubed them but still they are noisy.

I can't see any sign of the spools rubbing on the frame.

Have any of you had this issue with these reels?

Very frustrating. I may have to tear them apart completely and see if I can find out what is going on.

[castaway]

The money you have invested in them, I would send them to the reel mechanic.He gives this site members a discount as well. My point is he is a trained Shimano repairman and will know what to look for and he most likely already has the schematic sheets and knows what the tolerences are to what the parts need to be at and probably already has the part numbers to get  the correct part for you if your reels might need them. Also with being a Shimano brand , he most likely has had alot of experience with repairing the reel. P N J

[Guest DavidGreen]

Ted,

The Scorpion 1000 is a Japanese market reel. I don't service any JM reels..

The service for them in the US is rare.

I would suggest you contact:

1. Reel Em In

Mr. Dennis Radziewicz

7120 Hazelcrest Drive

Racine, WI 53402

262-681-3818

Good luck.

Tight Lines!!!

[Ted]

Ted,

The Scorpion 1000 is a Japanese market reel. I don't service any JM reels..

The service for them in the US is rare.

I would suggest you contact:

1. Reel Em In

Mr. Dennis Radziewicz

7120 Hazelcrest Drive

Racine, WI 53402

262-681-3818

Good luck.

Tight Lines!!!

Thanks!

[castaway]

Ted & Reel Tech., I am sorry, I wasn't aware that there was a difference in the Shimano reels sold here compared to the Japanese. It must be like the Abu Garcia 3500 CS ROCKET IAR reel I own, I bought it in Sweden and cannot buy parts for it in the US ?Abu said that it is only sold and distributed in South America. Its been a rock solid reel so far even though it has aluminum gears in it.  :-[ Ivan

[Ted]

Ted,

The Scorpion 1000 is a Japanese market reel. I don't service any JM reels..

The service for them in the US is rare.

I would suggest you contact:

1. Reel Em In

Mr. Dennis Radziewicz

7120 Hazelcrest Drive

Racine, WI 53402

262-681-3818

Good luck.

Tight Lines!!!

I took them completely apart and the 2 bearings were rusted pretty bad.

NOT the bearings for the spool but the one at the end of the drag shaft and the one where the gear rides that engages the spool.

They are thinner than the spool bearings.

I soaked them in lighter fluid and spun them many times and lubed them.

I think they are scored from the rust but I haven't tried the reels out yet.

Where could I get parts for these reels?

Thanks

[Raul]

Regular Shimano Curado 100B bearings are compatible with Scorpion 1000 bearings so, you can order them to Shimano.

[Ted]

Regular Shimano Curado 100B bearings are compatible with Scorpion 1000 bearings so, you can order them to Shimano.

Thank you Raul!

[Raul]

But if you are going to replace the bearings.........BOCA ceramics my man ! that will turn your Scorpions into a mean burgundy casting machine.  

[Ted]

But if you are going to replace the bearings.........BOCA ceramics my man ! that will turn your Scorpions into a mean burgundy casting machine.  

Thanks for the tip.

My question however, was regarding the 2 bearings housed on the handle-side of the reel. They are different then the spool's bearings. They are thinner. The small one is attached to the end of the handle/drag shaft and the other is a bit larger and surrounds the pinion throw-out gear.

I hope that the Curado 100 is compatible. I have a Curado 100 and I am going to dismantle and sevice it soon. I will see then.

[Guest DavidGreen]

Ted,

My question however, was regarding the 2 bearings housed on the handle-side of the reel.

The 2 bearings you are referring to are BNT2143 (crankshaft support), and, BNT2170 (pinion support). Boca does not have a crossover for those two bearing packs. For ceramics you would have to remove them and measure the packs then goto their site and enter the dimensions to see if they even build a ceramic in them.

 I hope that the Curado 100 is compatible. I have a Curado 100 and I am going to dismantle and sevice it soon.

It will depend on the year of the 100. The 93 100A doesn't have the support bearings you are seeking even the cast control bearing pack is a different number and not the BNT194.

Tight Lines!!!

[Ted]

Ted,

My question however, was regarding the 2 bearings housed on the handle-side of the reel.

The 2 bearings you are referring to are BNT2143 (crankshaft support), and, BNT2170 (pinion support). Boca does not have a crossover for those two bearing packs. For ceramics you would have to remove them and measure the packs then goto their site and enter the dimensions to see if they even build a ceramic in them.

 I hope that the Curado 100 is compatible. I have a Curado 100 and I am going to dismantle and sevice it soon.

It will depend on the year of the 100. The 93 100A doesn't have the support bearings you are seeking even the cast control bearing pack is a different number and not the BNT194.

Tight Lines!!!

Thanks RM.

Where do recommend I get these 2 bearings from?

I wrote pro-fishing.net and Japan Tackle but no response.

[Guest DavidGreen]

Ted,

Direct from Shimano.

[Ted]

Ted,

Direct from Shimano.

Thanks again.

I took my Curado 100B apart and cleaned/lubed it today.

The bearings in question appear to match the Scorpions.

[Guest DavidGreen]

Ted,

Because I don't have a schematic for the Scorpion 1000. I am assuming it is built like the CU100B.

If this is the case, one of the problems you might have is taking all of the parts off of the set plate (frame) to get to the pinion support bearing like on the CU100B..

This is not like taking the bearing retaining clips off and removing the bearings for cleaning and re-lube. It isn't accessible from the inside of the frame (were the spool sits).

Meaning you will have to remove all of the trigger, yoke, return, and crank assemblies, and any connected springs. Just make sure you have the schematic for your Scorpion 1000 in front of you when you do the job...

Good luck.