Lews Speed Spool SLP CP1SH

[Bazoo]

I have acquired a used, but seemingly lightly used Lews reel. I took the side plate off, and there are no centrifugal brakes like the other reels I've seen. Does this model not have centrifugal brakes, or has someone removed the assembly? I appreciate the help all.

 

 

[dodgeguy]

No it has magnetic brakes. That's one of their budget models.65$ new with graphite frame and magnetic brakes.

[Bazoo]

Thanks.  I knew it was a budget model, but I was unaware that baitcasters were made without centrifugal brakes.

[MN Fisher]

1 hour ago, Bazoo said:

but I was unaware that baitcasters were made without centrifugal brakes.

Below a certain price point, centrifugal brakes are rare.

 

Of my 12 casting reels, only my 2 Patriarchs and my one Supreme XT have centrifugals (the Patriarchs are dual braking, Cent and Mag)

My President XT, Supreme, Daiwa CA-80, both Fuegos, my Tatula CT and all three of my Tatula 100s are magnetic brake only.

[Bazoo]

Thanks, I didn't know that. I've never really messed with the brakes in baitcasters much. I learned on a round Abu Garcia Ambassadeur, which had brakes but I never messed with them other than taking it apart and seeing them on occasion. I have had a couple low pros, but I haven't even thought about the brakes until I opened this one and saw it lacked them.

[thediscochef]

For what its worth, my tatula CTs are some of my favorite reels and they are non-centrifugal braking as mentioned above. They only start struggling with the startup jerk when I'm throwing something over 1.25oz or so. Perfect for a texas rig, lipless crank, 110, 3/8oz chatterbait, any of your standard sized lures.

The lews tournament XP and inshore custom reels i own have the click switches on the spool when you open the palm plate. Some of the other lews have centrifugal brakes that use the dial like the mag brakes do - these bomb cast really, really well but it's the only braking system that's ever broken on me. Lews customer service is amazing though, they're sending me replacement parts. I'm excited to get the Tournament Pro back in service, it's my favorite reel

[dodgeguy]

9 hours ago, thediscochef said:

For what its worth, my tatula CTs are some of my favorite reels and they are non-centrifugal braking as mentioned above. They only start struggling with the startup jerk when I'm throwing something over 1.25oz or so. Perfect for a texas rig, lipless crank, 110, 3/8oz chatterbait, any of your standard sized lures.

The lews tournament XP and inshore custom reels i own have the click switches on the spool when you open the palm plate. Some of the other lews have centrifugal brakes that use the dial like the mag brakes do - these bomb cast really, really well but it's the only braking system that's ever broken on me. Lews customer service is amazing though, they're sending me replacement parts. I'm excited to get the Tournament Pro back in service, it's my favorite reel

Tournament Pro is nice.Thats my favorite braking system ever.

[bulldog1935]

 

Centrifugal is for preventing start-up backlash with big weights.  

Linear mag is for preventing mid-cast (wind) backlash casting lighter weights.  

Primer on 3 types of backlash and 4 types of brakes.  

[Eric 26]

I’m going to offer an opinion. First off I’m in no way a great fisherman or a mechanically inclined person which those who’ve answered before me are. In my opinion if you’re looking for an easy to adjust reel you cannot beat Daiwa CT line and above. I have multiple brands so I’m familiar with both magnetic and centrifugal and have a dual system currently. I’m not going to try to get technical but the difference between your Lews same system as my Daiwa CA80 and my Tatula Ct is the Lews magnets are adjusted closer or farther away from your spool which creates the same magnetic field throughout the cast whereas the Tatula has a moving cup that goes closer to the magnets or further from them throughout the cast creating again in my opinion an easier to control cast rather than any other system. The technical details of the mag force system can be found in multiple places including here if you’re so inclined to research them.

[Bazoo]

10 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

 

Centrifugal is for preventing start-up backlash with big weights.  

Linear mag is for preventing mid-cast (wind) backlash casting lighter weights.  

Primer on 3 types of backlash and 4 types of brakes.  

Thank you. That's a bunch of info that is right up my alley and I appreciate it.

[Bazoo]

9 hours ago, Eric 26 said:

I’m going to offer an opinion. First off I’m in no way a great fisherman or a mechanically inclined person which those who’ve answered before me are. In my opinion if you’re looking for an easy to adjust reel you cannot beat Daiwa CT line and above. I have multiple brands so I’m familiar with both magnetic and centrifugal and have a dual system currently. I’m not going to try to get technical but the difference between your Lews same system as my Daiwa CA80 and my Tatula Ct is the Lews magnets are adjusted closer or farther away from your spool which creates the same magnetic field throughout the cast whereas the Tatula has a moving cup that goes closer to the magnets or further from them throughout the cast creating again in my opinion an easier to control cast rather than any other system. The technical details of the mag force system can be found in multiple places including here if you’re so inclined to research them.

Thanks for the suggestion. I don't have a problem with adjustment and use of budget reels thus far. I'm learning about the differences between different models though as I'm really only experienced with a couple. 

[thediscochef]

17 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

Tournament Pro is nice.Thats my favorite braking system ever.

It's my favorite reel without a doubt. Made my curado dc feel like a waste of money until it broke if we're being real about it. Nice smooth drag. Only complaint is the classic lews pepper grinder noise when you're winding. But that's just kind of a fact of life with all the lews I have. I still intend to return it to service when the new spool shows up and bomb cast like the good ol day. I'll eventually spring for a gen2 but I would like to get more than 15 months out of the original lol

[PhishLI]

6 hours ago, thediscochef said:

Only complaint is the classic lews pepper grinder noise when you're winding. But that's just kind of a fact of life with all the lews I have.

Have you ever cleaned then greased the gears? Over the last 3+ years, my 2020 TP has gotten a ton of use in choked out waters. Whether I have two or six rigs with me, that reel is often the most used during most sessions or a close second. It feels the same as it did when I got it, which is reasonably smooth. Not Zillion G smooth, but very few reels are. However, I clean and grease the gears on my most used reels several times a season. This might not be absolutely necessary, or practical for everyone, but it takes me several minutes per reel so it's not a problem. The upside of having the side cover off to grease the gears is that you can do a quick lube on the clutch mechanicals and spring moorings which will keep the whole rig running smoothly.

 

Also, one of the two bearings supporting the pinion gear is shared with the spool. If you don't maintain lubrication of the bearings in the orbit of the gears in any reel, you'll often end up with what feels like pronounced gear meshing. Periodically oiling the spool bearings and P2 pinion bearing on the TP can be done in less than 2 minutes with no major disassembly required other than removing the spool tension knob, palming side plate, and spool. The Daiwa Reel oiler comes with a built-in needle tip which puts the oil precisely where it needs to go. Super easy.

[thediscochef]

1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

Have you ever cleaned then greased the gears? Over the last 3+ years, my 2020 TP has gotten a ton of use in choked out waters. Whether I have two or six rigs with me, that reel is often the most used during most sessions or a close second. It feels the same as it did when I got it, which is reasonably smooth. Not Zillion G smooth, but very few reels are. However, I clean and grease the gears on my most used reels several times a season. This might not be absolutely necessary, or practical for everyone, but it takes me several minutes per reel so it's not a problem. The upside of having the side cover off to grease the gears is that you can do a quick lube on the clutch mechanicals and spring moorings which will keep the whole rig running smoothly.

 

Also, one of the two bearings supporting the pinion gear is shared with the spool. If you don't maintain lubrication of the bearings in the orbit of the gears in any reel, you'll often end up with what feels like pronounced gear meshing. Periodically oiling the spool bearings and P2 pinion bearing on the TP can be done in less than 2 minutes with no major disassembly required other than removing the spool tension knob, palming side plate, and spool. The Daiwa Reel oiler comes with a built-in needle tip which puts the oil precisely where it needs to go. Super easy.

I haven't taken them apart entirely to grease them but I oil the bearings and worm gear on all my reels whenever I change line and clean accessible areas of grime. All three of my lews reels are peppery and were that way within a couple weeks of moderate use