kshays Posted September 24, 2023 Author Posted September 24, 2023 18 hours ago, airshot said: Yes, they are not friendly when temps get down to 40 degrees !! If you fish in the really cold, you might rethink. I don't fish in the really cold anymore, but the days here in KY can get to a high of 70 and a low of 30 at night. 3 hours ago, MN Fisher said: Never-ever put a Lithium-Ion in a boat - those are the ones that have all the fires Go with a LiFePo4 - much safer and more stable. Hey MN, I should have mentioned I was looking at the LiFePo4, not just a regular Lithium one Ty for the info, always good to be as safe as possible. Oh, also I do not have a heated garage. I would like to go ahead and make the switch to LiFePo4 batteries, but the way the weather is here in KY and with me not having a dedicated heated garage to store the boat in, AGM may have to be what I go with if I put them up front. Either that or just make sure I take the batteries in my office until I go fishing and then bring them back inside after I get done. TY Kevin Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted September 25, 2023 Super User Posted September 25, 2023 LifePO4 batteries perform better in the cold than lead acid batteries. The issue is when charging them. Charging at a high rate in below freezing temperatures can cause permanent damage. 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 25, 2023 Super User Posted September 25, 2023 52 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said: Charging at a high rate in below freezing temperatures can cause permanent damage. That's why a good BMS is necessary - it'll regulate the charging rate based on temperature to at least reduce if not eliminate damage concerns. 1 1 Quote
Alex from GA Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Just wait until the afternoon to charge it/them. I've been using a lifePO4 battery for my trolling motor for almost a year and it's the best improvement I could have done to my boat. I can run for several days on a charge, it weighs 1/4 what the group 27 lead acid weighed, charges in 1/2 the time and the boat gained .3 mph. Quote
kshays Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, Alex from GA said: Just wait until the afternoon to charge it/them. I've been using a lifePO4 battery for my trolling motor for almost a year and it's the best improvement I could have done to my boat. I can run for several days on a charge, it weighs 1/4 what the group 27 lead acid weighed, charges in 1/2 the time and the boat gained .3 mph. Where do you keep it at when it gets cold? Here in KY it can get down to 0-15 degrees during the winter. I won't be doing any fishing during this time, but I am also wondering if there are any hazards to keeping it inside the house until spring comes around. Kevin On 9/25/2023 at 8:53 AM, MN Fisher said: That's why a good BMS is necessary - it'll regulate the charging rate based on temperature to at least reduce if not eliminate damage concerns. What I've read and seen so far, it's a must pretty much. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 26, 2023 Super User Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, kshays said: Where do you keep it at when it gets cold? Here in KY it can get down to 0-15 degrees during the winter. I won't be doing any fishing during this time, but I am also wondering if there are any hazards to keeping it inside the house until spring comes around. I bring my AGMs into the basement in the winter - it can get to -10 in my garage - and they're more 'problematical' than LiFePo4s in that situation. Just don't let them sit on concrete....put a couple blocks of wood up and put them on those. Quote
Super User gim Posted September 26, 2023 Super User Posted September 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, kshays said: Where do you keep it at when it gets cold? He's in Gainesville, FL. It doesn't get "cold" there. 1 Quote
kshays Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, gimruis said: He's in Gainesville, FL. It doesn't get "cold" there. LOL, I thought his sig said FL. I usually take my vacations down toward the FloraBama line at the end of October for a week. It's pretty warm there compared to here in KY 28 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: I bring my AGMs into the basement in the winter - it can get to -10 in my garage - and they're more 'problematical' than LiFePo4s in that situation. Just don't let them sit on concrete....put a couple blocks of wood up and put them on those. That is colder than it gets where I live for sure. I read a long time ago concrete was bad on the batteries so I usually do what you do, put them on something else. Do you trickle charge them from time to time as well while in the basement? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 26, 2023 Super User Posted September 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, kshays said: Do you trickle charge them from time to time as well while in the basement? I'll charge them up just before removal...then once again about halfway through winter...then a full charge after re-install in the spring. 1 Quote
airshot Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Do the LifePo4 batteries hold there charge thru the winter in the cold?? Looking to replace my trolling battery next year. In Ohio we can get -10 below and while my boat is stored in my pole barn it is not heated. I keep my agm batteries on a maintenence charger over the winter and it has added years onto there lives. Do these LifePo4 batteries need something like that ?? Quote
kshays Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, MN Fisher said: I'll charge them up just before removal...then once again about halfway through winter...then a full charge after re-install in the spring. Sounds good! TY Quote
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