AJ Hauser Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 Hey fellas, I've had some luck fishing down about 15 - 20' lately at the base of these sections underwater that come up to the shoreline at a more gradual slope, with steep drops off either side. I don't think these are called "points" though - or even secondary points because they're not really pointy and they are just coming off of random areas of the shore with no above-water visual cues... I have no idea what to call them. To paint a picture, I'm fishing a clear lake where the bottom drops down steep, in-line with the steep slope of the hills above the water. However, along sections of the shoreline there are these sections that have a much more gradual slope into deep water - they might be 30 feet wide and have steep drops off of either side... it almost looks like a driveway or ramp but it's all rocky sandy bottom. What the heck do you call these things? 2 Quote
Nelson Delaney Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 Shoreline erosion from people walking & cutting the brush to fish. Quote
AJ Hauser Posted September 6, 2023 Author Posted September 6, 2023 Thank you, but I should clarify, the "ramp" looking thing is underwater, not above. Sorry if I was confusing. 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 Its a point . 1 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 To me it’s a natural “cut” where the bank irregularities continue down the water column. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, AJ Hauser said: it almost looks like a driveway or ramp but it's all rocky sandy bottom Man-made body of water it could be a dirt road bed. From what you're describing its not cut into the bottom? 1 Quote
AJ Hauser Posted September 6, 2023 Author Posted September 6, 2023 UPDATE: I took a pic of my graph and I also included a pic of the shoreline above water. Here is what's throwing me off I guess - the shoreline is perfectly straight with brush and trees overhanging the bank. So to look at it from across the lake, you'd never see anything (like an obvious point) that indicated there was something different under the water. I made the map with my Garmin and that straight line across the bottom is as close to shore as I could float my jon boat. So again there are no obvious cuts or points along the shore... I mean this is almost like half of an underwater hump... but what would you all call this? 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 It’s a bar - Buck Perry terminology - but as others have mentioned, ‘point,’ ‘wash’ or ‘slide’ might also be used. Probably happened a while back and all the shoreline visual references have been hidden as grass/brush/vegetation has reestablished. Very good areas to fish that often get overlooked by anglers for a variety of reasons. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 Clear Lake is a natural lake, not a reservoir and has a Rumsey weir wooden spillway at Cache Creek outflow built to raise the water 7+’ decades ago. Some made made structure flooded in the shallow areas below 7’ at full pool. What the OP is depicting is a natural lake point and hump outside. Tom Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 Y'all talking where the X is or the part in white? Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 I responded to point marked X in yellow & green. Tom 1 Quote
AJ Hauser Posted September 6, 2023 Author Posted September 6, 2023 The white spot is the deepest. I appreciate all the help guys - I've looked up multiple definitions and examples of bars and points and it seems like most are describing this as a bar. Here was one that exactly described what this was... whether it's 100% accurate or not, I dunno! "A Bar is shallow water surrounded on three sides by deeper water. The most common type of Bar is an underwater extension of a Point. Another Bar may just be an extension of shallow water into deeper water with no visible above water Point." "Bar" makes more sense than "half a hump," which is what I was calling these... ? 1 Quote
Woody B Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 I'm certainly not an expert. I call areas like that a hidden point. To me it's a point but it doesn't like up with a land point. There's a similar area on a lake I fish. People fish the "land points" all the time but never fish what I consider the real point. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 How did I think this was a Clear Lake point? Thingamajig wires crossed up somewhere? Tom 3 Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 6, 2023 Super User Posted September 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, WRB said: How did I think this was a Clear Lake point? Thingamajig wires crossed up somewhere? Tom Fingers faster than the brain ? 1 1 Quote
AJ Hauser Posted September 8, 2023 Author Posted September 8, 2023 Thanks again fellas - appreciate the feedback! Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted September 8, 2023 Super User Posted September 8, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 7:49 AM, AJ Hauser said: Hey fellas, I've had some luck fishing down about 15 - 20' lately at the base of these sections underwater that come up to the shoreline at a more gradual slope, with steep drops off either side. I don't think these are called "points" though - or even secondary points because they're not really pointy and they are just coming off of random areas of the shore with no above-water visual cues... I have no idea what to call them. To paint a picture, I'm fishing a clear lake where the bottom drops down steep, in-line with the steep slope of the hills above the water. However, along sections of the shoreline there are these sections that have a much more gradual slope into deep water - they might be 30 feet wide and have steep drops off of either side... it almost looks like a driveway or ramp but it's all rocky sandy bottom. What the heck do you call these things? Crack a tube on top of those points next spring when the water hits mid 50's.? 1 Quote
VolFan Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 You’re all wrong. It’s an underwater point or a submerged isthmus. ? The Rock Voice: IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT! Just fish it. 1 2 Quote
AJ Hauser Posted September 11, 2023 Author Posted September 11, 2023 On 9/8/2023 at 9:13 AM, T-Billy said: Crack a tube on top of those points next spring when the water hits mid 50's.? Will do - appreciate the tip, good sir! Tight lines 1 Quote
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