TriStateBassin106 Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 I have the daiwa tatula ct in a 8:3:1 gear ratio I use for bottom contact lures, it's been in my ownership for about a year now and I noticed though it's been noisy ever since I got it, I can hear noise when I rotate the handle and cast, does anyone else own the tatula ct and experience this, anyway to possibly fix the noise? I clean and re oil/lube during the winter to keep it clean and free of dirt. Just curious if it's in the design or something else. Thanks 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 4, 2023 Super User Posted September 4, 2023 The Tatula CT is a bit noisier than the Tatula 100 (I have both). Realize that the Tatula CT is just a slightly upgraded Fuego CT - same frame, spool, main gears, etc - only real difference is that the Tatula CT has the T-Wing. 1 Quote
dmiles Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 any chance its braid noise? my tatula is really loud with braid, but not with FC 1 Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, dmiles said: any chance its braid noise? my tatula is really loud with braid, but not with FC It's not screeching loud but noticeable if you listen to it, I think @MN Fisheris right it might be just the way daiwa reels are. I cleaned up the spool shaft and the actual spool its self and its still a little noisy Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 Does it seem to be timed with the handle? Or the spool? What I mean is does it seem to occur consistent with the handle as you turn it, or does the timing of the squeak seem to vary and happen at different handle positions? Trying to determine if it is in the handle shaft or spool shaft. Could it be in the handle knobs? Quote
newapti5 Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 If it's the same noise when you cast, it's likely the spool bearings. When a reel's cast is normal, the only moving parts are the spool and the spool bearings. Daiwa reels use magnetic brakes, so no friction noise there, which leads to the spool bearings. Once bearings are damaged, they may still rotate well, but oil or cleaning is not gonna quiet them down. Try changing the spool bearings for a change if that noise bothers you. They're 3x8x4mm and 3x10x4mm. Of course there's still that small possibility of damaged spool, but that usually cause some noticeable wobble of the spool during cast. 1 Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Posted September 5, 2023 3 hours ago, FrnkNsteen said: Does it seem to be timed with the handle? Or the spool? What I mean is does it seem to occur consistent with the handle as you turn it, or does the timing of the squeak seem to vary and happen at different handle positions? Trying to determine if it is in the handle shaft or spool shaft. Could it be in the handle I think it's the spool turning, is there anyway I can record the sound and post it on here? 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 ^ Take a short clip with your phone, post to YouTube, link here. 1 Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Posted September 5, 2023 Ignore any clacking since it's my finger occasionally hitting the drag star. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 ^ Ya, that's what I'm thinking. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 Time to be cleaned and oiled. Sounds dry to the bone. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 I just noticed in the OP "it's been noisy ever since I got it,". That's actually pretty typical now-days. I always go through a new reel to make sure that either A: They've greased/oiled it or B: They haven't over greased/oiled it. Rarely do I get a new reel that's properly greased/oiled anymore. 4 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 Recently took a flyer on a couple of Daiwa Tatula Elite Casting Reels 6.3:1 to use on single hook moving baits. They both showed up mostly "dry". Meaning very little in the way of lube, grease & or bearing oil. Not sure if this is a common Diawa deal as I don't own many. So yes, noisy on the cast too. Either way, after cracking them open and giving them some TLC, I am Very Pleased and ordered two more. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, MN Fisher said: I just noticed in the OP "it's been noisy ever since I got it,". That's actually pretty typical now-days. I always go through a new reel to make sure that either A: They've greased/oiled it or B: They haven't over greased/oiled it. Rarely do I get a new reel that's properly greased/oiled anymore. Absolutely. It doesn't matter what brand or even the same reel. For example, I have two Steez A II's. One was drenched in oil and a good amount of grease and the other was dry. Once properly oiled and greased, they both feel the same. Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, MN Fisher said: ^ Ya, that's what I'm thinking. What parts do I need to oil/lube? I already did the spool and bearings that go into the tension knob and the shaft under the star drag I use shimano bantam oil since it came with a few SLX series I own will this be a good oil to get rid of the dryness in the reel? What parts need to be lubricated? Quote
garroyo130 Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, TriStateBassin106 said: What parts do I need to oil/lube? I already did the spool and bearings that go into the tension knob and the shaft under the star drag I use shimano bantam oil since it came with a few SLX series I own will this be a good oil to get rid of the dryness in the reel? What parts need to be lubricated? You'll have to remove the handle and crack open the reel. Get a tub of Cals Tan Drag grease and you can use that on both the gears and drag. Find a video of someone doing a teardown or clean and lube and follow that. Make sure to keep track of all parts and take pictures as needed. Or send it over to @Delaware Valley Tackle Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 ^ Yep - most of the noise is probably coming from the gears and not the spool...and you use grease there, not oil. Quote
Will Ketchum Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 It's probably the way the gears are cut. "Why are straight cut gears so noisy? Drawbacks come in the shape of their convenience and operation. They naturally create a hell of a lot of noise; helical gears mesh together in small segments at a time while straight-cut teeth are in contact with each other fully and for a longer period of time which makes for a very distinctive whine." Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 I would bet its either dry or its bearing. Do a deep clean, purge the old grease and apply new grease and oil and Ill bet that does the trick. If its still had a whirring noise then its likely a bearing. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 The Tatulas are not typically a silent running reel especially after some use. I can’t speak to the sounds from your particular reel without seeing it. Deep cleaning and lubrication will remedy a lot of ills. Send it in at your convenience if you’d like. Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted September 5, 2023 Posted September 5, 2023 13 hours ago, TriStateBassin106 said: Ignore any clacking since it's my finger occasionally hitting the drag star. I had a Tatula CT Type R that made noise like that. I had fallen in the boat and landed on the reel. It made a noise like that after the fall so I called Bryan, the reel tech at Tackle Trap and asked about it. Bryan recommended looking at the anti-reverse sleeve on the main shaft. He specifically had me look for indents from the anti-reverse rollers imprinted on the anti-reverse sleeve. I had fallen on mine, and sure enough, mine had indents. He said a hard shock to it, like from my fall, or even a hard hookset can cause the indentions to happen. We replaced the anti-reverse bearing and sleeve and most of the noise went away. Try lubing everything up and see if that helps, but if not,... Look at your anti-reverse components. Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Posted September 5, 2023 5 hours ago, MN Fisher said: ^ Yep - most of the noise is probably coming from the gears and not the spool...and you use grease there, not oil. Know any good grease? Would ardent reel butter work? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted September 5, 2023 Super User Posted September 5, 2023 I'd stay away from Ardent - go with Cals Tan https://www.amazon.com/Cals-tan-Drag-Reel-Grease/dp/B08FGG26FX 1oz will go a long way.... 2 Quote
TriStateBassin106 Posted September 5, 2023 Author Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, MN Fisher said: I'd stay away from Ardent - go with Cals Tan https://www.amazon.com/Cals-tan-Drag-Reel-Grease/dp/B08FGG26FX 1oz will go a long way.... Thanks man I appreciate it Quote
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