Topwater 'n Jerkbaits prefer Nylon?

[Laggyman]

I'll try finding a copolymer line and try it next time I have to spool up some line.  And while I have my currrent line I'll practice the baits and see if I can adapt to the differences.

About leaders....

Wouldn't using "leaders" defeat any purpose of using that particular line in the first place? Ex. Using a mono leader on Fluro line?? I have read many people using leaders and such for braid, but it sounds to me like that is defeating the purpose of using braid/fluro, "good sensetivity" "non-stretch" aspects which mono doesn't have.

I'm getting confused about leaders...

[mike bat]

laggy leaders are cool .... they allow you to fish a braid in any situation .... one time i wanted to toss a crank but i olny had a rod with braid ,,,i prefer a mono line due to the stretch .... i tied up a mono leader no problem .... also theres a flour leader if you are fishin crystal clear waters ..... there are 100s of reasons why you may want a leader or need one ,,, this is just another way to tweek yor tackle  ;D

[RoLo]

Can someone give me a brief introduction to Copolymer line??

Pros, Cons?

As the name suggests, copolymer line combines 'cooperative polymers' to create a hybrid line. Almost without exception,

copolymer line (hybrid line) is some combination of nylon and fluorocarbon. The goal of course is to reap as many

benefits from each material without inheriting their disadvantages. In spite of manufacturer claims, this is not possible.

Not unexpectedly, "copolymer" falls somewhere between nylon and fluorocarbon in every line property in the chart below:

NYLON COPOLYMER FLUORO BRAID

Memory-Lack       85       80 70 100

Stretch-Resistance      65      75       80       95

Abrasion-Resistance 75 85       90       80

Life Span       70      85       95       95

Invisibility       85      90       95       65

RAW SCORE: 380 415       430 435

I apologize for the chart misalignment, we need RTF

To be realistic, the "raw score" needs to be replaced with a "Weighted Score".

That is, each line-property needs to be weighted between 0 and 100 according to

each angler's personal order of declining importance. My order of importance

coincides with the order listed above. In that order, the weighted score of "braid"

(which is not shown) blows the wheels off all other line materials.

Roger

[Laggyman]

Thanks for that chart!  Didn't know the lifespan of a fluro line is generally longer than a Nylon...  

Is the Yo-zuri Hybrid a Copolymer?? Errr... are "Hybrid" lines just "Copolymer"??

[cart7t]

For topwaters I suggest mono.  I would not want line sinking into the water.  Ulimately it will make it more difficult to impart action into the lure if I'm having to first get the line up out of the water along with trying to manipulate the lure.  I'd stay away from braid for the same reasons.

As for suspending jerkbaits,  the same thing.  The last thing I want is a line pulling my jerkbait down with it.  I'd rather have a floating line like mono and manually adjust the weight of the jerkbait to counteract the line.  

[JiggaMan512]

I personally am not inclined to use different lines for different lures (can't be bothered).

I believe that once you select the line that you deem best overall, you'll soon become accustomed to it's behavior

with different lures, and how it needs to be managed. Gosh, it's the only "craft" that's left in the science of fishing.

For example, the Sammy.

"Walking-the-dog" is one of the most productive topwater retrieves. One of the reasons is due to the fact

that the lure never stops moving, and bass never get a good look. Even with fluorocarbon line (I use braid),

if you hold the rod-tip high around noon, and keep the lure scooting constantly, I rather doubt that the line

will get a chance to sink enough to destroy the zigzag motion.

Roger

IMO thats the same theory as using the same lb test for every situation. Personally, i couldnt see myself using mono around abunch of rip rap.

[RoLo]

I personally am not inclined to use different lines for different lures (can't be bothered).

I believe that once you select the line that you deem best overall, you'll soon become accustomed to it's behavior

with different lures, and how it needs to be managed. Gosh, it's the only "craft" that's left in the science of fishing.

For example, the Sammy. "Walking-the-dog" is one of the most productive topwater retrieves. One of the reasons

is due to the fact that the lure never stops moving, and bass never get a good look. Even with fluorocarbon line (I use braid),

if you hold the rod-tip high around noon, and keep the lure scooting constantly, I rather doubt that the line

will get a chance to sink enough to destroy the zigzag motion.

Roger

IMO thats the same theory as using the same lb test for every situation. Personally, i couldnt see myself using mono around abunch of rip rap.

I don't think that "Line-test" is the best analogy.

I own several dozen fishing outfits and the main reason I've sunk thousands of dollars into rods, reels and line

is to satisfy different fish species and different line-tests. I stated the following, "I believe that once you select the line

that you deem best overall, you'll soon become accustomed to it's behavior with different lures, and how it needs to be managed."

For more than 50 years I've fished rip-rap with nylon monofilament, and now that I've switched from nylon to spectra braid,

I now fish all rip-rap with braid. I didn't feel disadvantaged before, and I don't feel disadvantaged now (maybe happier now).

When something goes wrong, I rarely blame my equipment, but typically blame myself and make any necessary adjustment.

A. I don't fish for a living, I fish for recreation.

B. I'm not easily hornswaggled by tournament marketing hype that would have you and I

buy a different line for each different lure presentation and for every type of cover.

But as always, to each his own

Roger

[RoLo]

Thanks for that chart! Didn't know the lifespan of a fluro line is generally longer than a Nylon...

Is the Yo-zuri Hybrid a Copolymer?? Errr... are "Hybrid" lines just "Copolymer"??

Yes, Yo-Zuri is a hybrid line and a copolymer, which are one and the same.

The only disputable attribute of Yo-Zuri is whether it should be classified as a monofilament line.

Under a microscope, Yo-Zuri line consists of longitudinally aligned nylon fibers that make up the core,

encased in a fluorocarbon coat. Very interesting technology.

Roger

[lubina]

I use P-Line CX, which is a copolymer, it has some memory that I like with treble hooks but not as much as Fruoroclear, smaller diameter and the abrasion resistance of the fluorocarbon sheath and it floats.

For some reason I don't like the feeling of the 100 % flouro that I have tried, confidence factor. It should'nt be too bad when KVD won the 05 Classic using it with a floating Rogue.

[Laggyman]

Copolymer sounds like good line for them Cranks and Jerks and Topwaters  

I'll have to go find it..... P-LineCX or Yozuri Hybrid... Doesn't matter which. I just want to try out a different type of line.  Sounds like a happy medium between sinking fluoro and stretchy nylon.