Super User LrgmouthShad Posted August 22, 2023 Super User Posted August 22, 2023 These are the two reels I’m thinking of mounting on my new Expert Head Turner. Abu fans, please bash and attack the Daiwa fans. Daiwa fans, please bash and attack the Abu fans. No, don’t do that. Just looking for some thoughts on what y’all think. Skipping, pitching, buzzbaits, walking baits 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 22, 2023 Super User Posted August 22, 2023 Took a flyer on a couple of Daiwa Tatula Elite Casting Reels 6.3:1 to use on single hook moving baits. They both showed up mostly "dry". Meaning very little in the way of lube, grease & or bearing oil. Not sure if this is a common Diawa deal as I don't own many. Either way, after cracking them open and giving them some TLC, I am Very Pleased. Right size, smooth on the cast, powerful on the retrieve, good line capacity and I like the handle & knobs. I'd recommend this one. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tatula_Elite_Casting_Reel/descpage-DTEC.html A-Jay 2 1 Quote
MiceNReets Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 Neither. Get a 2021 Zillion SV or 2022 Zillion HD. 5 hours ago, A-Jay said: Took a flyer on a couple of Daiwa Tatula Elite Casting Reels 6.3:1 to use on single hook moving baits. Them both showed up mostly "dry". Meaning very little in the way of lube, grease & or bearing oil. Not sure if this is a common Diawa deal as I don't own many. Either way, after cracking them open and giving them some TLC, I am Very Pleased. Right size, smooth on the cast, powerful on the retrieve, good line capacity and I like the handle & knobs. I'd recommend this one. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tatula_Elite_Casting_Reel/descpage-DTEC.html A-Jay Or this…. I have a couple and they are no slouch. ?? 2 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted August 22, 2023 Author Super User Posted August 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, MiceNReets said: Neither. Get a 2021 Zillion SV or 2022 Zillion HD. I have a zillion and like it but do not want it for this purpose. Hey, I appreciate it though 1 Quote
PBBrandon Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 Out of those 2, the SX is probably the better all round reel. Liked my gen 4 SX until it got geary. I’m a fan of the Tat 150, but not for skipping. A Tatula 100 or a Curado MGL 150 would be great choices as well. Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted August 23, 2023 Super User Posted August 23, 2023 I’ve fished a couple different reel profiles on my head turner including a gen 4 revo sx, gen 4 revo stx, the newest chronarch, a new zillion, and a shimano met (jdm). I love the met on it. It’s the smallest of them physically and is very light but the right balance. The zillion is also great and more of a form factor preference compared to the met. I prefer the met of the two but ymmv. A revo gen 4 sits very nice on the rod as well and what if fished on it forever until I put the met on it. Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 23, 2023 Super User Posted August 23, 2023 i can only skip on one reel of mine. my Daiwa SV TW. i think it is the SV spool that is helping me. i tried on my Curado MGL 150, and it was a big NOPE. Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted August 23, 2023 Super User Posted August 23, 2023 46 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: i can only skip on one reel of mine. my Daiwa SV TW. i think it is the SV spool that is helping me. i tried on my Curado MGL 150, and it was a big NOPE. Keep trying. At first I could only skip in the pool with an old Chronarch and a 1.5oz soft swimbait. The Zillion SV spool helped and works well of course, but randomly one day I was throwing a pegged texas rigged flipping tube on a new Chronarch MGL and suddenly it was skipping. Same for the met and a jig one day. It just suddenly worked so those days when its working I just keep practicing it and building the muscle memory. Then there are other days where I can't skip a think so I stop rather than practice wrong. Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 23, 2023 Super User Posted August 23, 2023 roger that. i practice on the days the fishing sucks. Quote
Texas Flood Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 People still use Abu reels? #TeamDaiwa Sorry, that's all I got for ***** talking. 2 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted August 24, 2023 Author Super User Posted August 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Texas Flood said: People still use Abu reels? #TeamDaiwa Sorry, that's all I got for ***** talking. Not to join the **** talking but this is one of my favorite reels REVO Winch Gen 4 1 Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted August 24, 2023 Super User Posted August 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Texas Flood said: People still use Abu reels? #TeamDaiwa Sorry, that's all I got for ***** talking. I love my Gen 4 STX reels (I have 2). I bought one new and one used (here on forum) and a couple years in they are going strong. With 30 lb braid, it might be my longest casting reel (I've not done a head to lead with the same rod and reel, but I'm sure its close). Both are super smooth still with plenty of use. I wouldn't pay full retail ($199) for them, but at the prices I paid I am happy with them. The gen 4 Revo SX is also a pretty solid reel at a 25% discount or so. I have two of them and the 6:1 is my crankbait reel. They are a little heavier (about 8 oz) but are smooth and adjustable. Keep it lubed and you're ready to roll. They were about $100 at one time on sale and you couldn't be them at that price. I also like (but don't love) my gen 2 MGX. Its smooth and casts great, but isn't rigid enough for me. I love it on a light weight rod (total rod and reel weighs about 8 oz) and its a great total setup. That said, the reel flexes a little when I grip it firmly which is a no no for me. 1 Quote
Texas Flood Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 When I first got into using baitcasters('09), I bought a few Revo's and I still have a SX today. It just sits in the garage though. Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted August 24, 2023 Super User Posted August 24, 2023 Mine are my secondary reels. My main three rods that I use have a zillion, a met, and a chronarch on them. I carry these three setups every trip. Then depending where I'm going and what I'm fishing, others will come along. The STXs are on rods that I usually take (heavy/frog rod and shortie spinnerbait/topwater rod). I have a 200E chronarch on my big flipping stick which often comes. The Revo's are on cranking rods which are more seasonal. The MGX is on my light topwater/jerkbait rod which is early season with the cranking rods. Would I love a full suite of chronarchs or mets? sure. I've toyed with it when the Yen is weak or a used one pops up. I seriously considered the one in the classifieds here. But I don't need it and I certainly don't need to spend $200 just to upgrade something that is fine. 1 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted September 12, 2023 Author Super User Posted September 12, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 1:06 PM, A-Jay said: Took a flyer on a couple of Daiwa Tatula Elite Casting Reels 6.3:1 to use on single hook moving baits. They both showed up mostly "dry". Meaning very little in the way of lube, grease & or bearing oil. Not sure if this is a common Diawa deal as I don't own many. Either way, after cracking them open and giving them some TLC, I am Very Pleased. Right size, smooth on the cast, powerful on the retrieve, good line capacity and I like the handle & knobs. I'd recommend this one. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tatula_Elite_Casting_Reel/descpage-DTEC.html A-Jay Considering getting this with 15% TW discount Lot of options to consider but this is one of them. I friggin love Falcon Head Turners, dude. Maybe I need a nice reel to treat it with? Idk. But every time I'm casting or fighting a fish with the head turner I think "this rod is the real deal." Quote
waymont Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 The 150 is slightly bigger reel than a standard Tatula sv TW, not as good for walking the dog or skipping. I’d get the standard Tatula instead. Quote
Bandersnatch Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 While I’m sure plenty of companies make good reels I don’t understand why anybody actually fishes anything but daiwa and Shimano. There’s a great reel at every price point from them Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted September 13, 2023 Super User Posted September 13, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 1:52 PM, LrgmouthShad said: Skipping, pitching, buzz baits, walking baits I have a preference for pitching with reels having wider spools, or reels with a frame that allows for easier access to a typical 25mm wide spool. A Chronarch is an example of a reel that I don't like to pitch with as I need to contort my thumb and grip to pitch with it without rubbing its spools's rim. The 150 has a 28mm wide spool, so it works for me and my hand size. YMMV. I believe the ABU's is 22mm wide. Besides that particular criteria, my 150's have been great. Very smooth and very good casters. The 150 is very capable for bombing cranks. All of my Daiwas with metal gear-side side plates have been very smooth. Whether you'll be happier with the 150 or the Elite depends on your hand size and grip particulars. The 150 palms just fine for me. If you have smaller hands the Elite is probably the better choice. 1 Quote
JediAmoeba Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 1:52 PM, LrgmouthShad said: These are the two reels I’m thinking of mounting on my new Expert Head Turner. Abu fans, please bash and attack the Daiwa fans. Daiwa fans, please bash and attack the Abu fans. No, don’t do that. Just looking for some thoughts on what y’all think. Skipping, pitching, buzzbaits, walking baits For buzzbaits I use a zillion 10.0. For skipping and pitching I use Tatula SV reels. I have many Zillions, A few alphas, svs, cts, type r's and the SVs just skip phenomenally. 1 Quote
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