Which reels of today will be valued in the future?

[bulldog1935]

@bowhunter63 If you look at the current limited edition factory-tuned Ambassadeur, with full-BB level wind and idler, they're asking $464.  Though it takes that much to buy an Ambassadeur and tune it this way using aftermarket parts.  https://japantackle.com/casting-reels/abu/reg0000344.html

Here's the PureFishing.jp link to those reels.  

kudos @redmeansdistortion for first finding these.  

https://www.purefishing.jp/product/abugarcia/ambassadeur-4500c4501c5500c5501c6500c6501c-factory-tuned.html

and of course, we need a photo

(this one came off my bench with a rare Akios LW barstock frame).  

 

 

@thediscochef also has a very good point.  This forum strongly reflects USM trends, and values light weight almost first.  Lightweight reels that retain a good portion of their value are not going to be composite plastic, but forged (not cast or die-cast) magnesium.  (Barstock is also up there, but is a bench-made thing).  

[MAN]

Nothing from this era that isn't already expensive.  Most manufacturers right now make reels with the expectation of a 3-5 year life with standard use. Not to cut cost, or create higher turn.....but because that is what the current consumer is satisfied with these days. Long gone are the days you bought a reel with the expectation that you would be handing it down to your son one day.  

 

There are exceptions to all the above....I am just lumping together most $39-$200 reels on market right now. 

[T2DM]

18 Bantam MGL, Specially the 5.5PG!

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

Nothing on the market right now that interests me dont feel 10 years from now Ill be wanting any of them.

[thunderblack]

8 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

Nothing on the market right now that interests me dont feel 10 years from now Ill be wanting any of them.

What about the Kast King computer reel? What if you had the latest software?

[MN Fisher]

14 minutes ago, thunderblack said:

What about the Kast King computer reel? What if you had the latest software?

In just a few years, the hardware will be old enough that you can't install the latest software update, so you'll have to upgrade the hardware.

[Reel]

I use Shimano products and I have three that come to mind: 

The Core 100 MG FV is one of them.  Also the Castaic 200 and of course the original Green Curado.

[bulldog1935]

If anyone wants to put their stated reel example to an empirical value test, 

Advanced Search on ebay limited to Completed-Sold will give you the value of your example reel in the current market.  If the listed price that shows up is struck through, the seller accepted an offer less than his asking BIN price.  

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@Darth-Baiter style includes computer chips.  

Round stays in your pocketbook.  If you have a niche for them (e.g. close kayak fishing) they can't be beat.  

 

Call it right place at the right time, but here's a 100-y-o fly reel design, certainly out of style, but still being made (on and off in limited batches) because of its function.  I snagged a MkIV closeout at harrissportsmail for $230.  I don't have it any more, it burned a hole in my pocket, and I sold it for $525 - used.  

 

(can't get deals like that at harrissportsmail any more - PureFishing, Hardy USA complained, and Alnwick read them the riot act)

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Every BR reel thread has a way of turning into what's your favorite reel, and how do you prefer to spend your money.  The context of the OP's question is specific - what reel will hold its monetary value if you want to sell it to others.  

[Darth-Baiter]

i argue that round has long gone out of style.  

[MAN]

1 hour ago, Darth-Baiter said:

i argue that round has long gone out of style.  

 

Style..yes.  Value...no 

[dodgeguy]

i argue that most lews diawa and shimano reels above $100 and up with proper maintenance will last just as long as any other reel and perform better doing it. its like people who say cars arent built well anymore. is that why they easily last over 200000 miles but old cars rarely did and if they did its because the owner really took care of it.

[FrnkNsteen]

On 8/17/2023 at 1:53 PM, dodgeguy said:

i argue that most lews diawa and shimano reels above $100 and up with proper maintenance will last just as long as any other reel and perform better doing it. its like people who say cars arent built well anymore. is that why they easily last over 200000 miles but old cars rarely did and if they did its because the owner really took care of it.

I don't think it's a design or build quality issue with today's reels that is being questioned. I agree that they perform well, but am not so convinced they will last as long with all the plastic injection molded parts.

 

That being said, the original post asked which ones will hold value. My opinion is very few stand out enough for people to want them enough to place value on them down the road.

 

Doyo reels are good reels, but very few stand out. I don't think the myriad of current Daiwa or Shimano models differ enough to stand out either,... Not like the Daiwa Pixy,  TDZ, ITO, or Megabass models did in the past. There are currently lots of different Shimano reels with slight differences betwen them too, but when people talk favorites, I hear Core 100, 50, and Curado D's and E's mentioned more than I do Chronarchs, METs, or DCs.

 

People value the items that stand out or are different, and different just seems more rare these days in my opinion.

[dodgeguy]

31 minutes ago, FrnkNsteen said:

I don't think it's a design or build quality issue with today's reels that is being questioned. I agree that they perform well, but am not so convinced they will last as long with all the plastic injection molded parts.

 

That being said, the original post asked which ones will hold value. My opinion is very few stand out enough for people to want them enough to place value on them down the road.

 

Doyo reels are good reels, but very few stand out. I don't think the myriad of current Daiwa or Shimano models differ enough to stand out either,... Not like the Daiwa Pixy,  TDZ, ITO, or Megabass models did in the past. There are currently lots of different Shimano reels with slight differences betwen them too, but when people talk favorites, I hear Core 100, 50, and Curado D's and E's mentioned more than I do Chronarchs, METs, or DCs.

 

People value the items that stand out or are different, and different just seems more rare these days in my opinion.

Shimano dc reels are different. Lews custom Lite is different weight wise. Diawas t wing is different. Eventually if different is good it becomes common and isn't different anymore. I would say looking for features that definitely changed how reels were made.

 

[garroyo130]

2 hours ago, FrnkNsteen said:

That being said, the original post asked which ones will hold value. My opinion is very few stand out enough for people to want them enough to place value on them down the road.

 

If we're talking hold value vs increase, my money is on the workhorse reels. Don't own one, but I suspect the SLX XT will hold its value very well.

[WRB]

On 8/17/2023 at 9:14 AM, Darth-Baiter said:

i argue that round has long gone out of style.  

When or if you get into swimbaits you will find round reels are the top choice. Salt water round reels dominate because of line capacity and drag performance.

Tom