What’s the general consensus on alternatives to traditional neds, particularly craw profiles with flapping arms like the Rage Ned or chigger?

[Ohioguy25]

You would think the added action would entice a bite once it comes to rest in the defensive position, but I’m not sure. Do you find these ever to be more effective when traditional finesse tactics aren’t producing?

[Pat Brown]

I really do love your thread titles.  They're so specific and thorough.

 

You can't go wrong with some flap when they're wanting a slower fall or when the bait is more active in the area IMHO.  I like less flap when fish are inactive.

[MN Fisher]

I've had decent luck using Z-Man HogZ and CrawZ, so I think it could make the difference if they're not biting on the TRD Stick.

[The Bassman]

In Fisherman has cited a particular study several times that indicates no claws are more appealing to bass.

[MN Fisher]

Another one I picked up recently and seems to do well is the Mr Twister Ned Ringer...I think it's the 'flappy' bit at the end that does it.

[Ohioguy25]

36 minutes ago, The Bassman said:

In Fisherman has cited a particular study several times that indicates no claws are more appealing to bass.

Yeah I’ve read that too, makes sense.

[Darth-Baiter]

sometimes they want subtle.  sometimes they want in your face, craw giving them the finger.  

[Team9nine]

Part of the system is carrying and using different baits - give the fish a choice; it’s more about the profile options though, versus any specific appendages or lack thereof IMO.

[heavyduty]

I tend to throw "flappers" when the water has some color to it. Clearer water, more subtle approach. I've always done well with Yamamoto fat baby craws in clearer water. 

[RRocket]

The Dolive Beaver is fairly exceptional...particularly on a Free Rig. On the way down, the arms flap like crazy. But when the weight hits bottom it changes to a glide down. See at the 5 minute mark of this video.

 

Can confirm this is exactly how it's worked when I've used it.

 

 

[Munkin]

 

I can catch a bass out of my toilet with these.

 

Allen

[scaleface]

When it come to finesse  jig fishing "Neds"  nothing is taboo. A half lizard lying on the bottom of the boat will score.

[SproDD79]

SK Rage ned bug have been killer for me this season.

[Ohioguy25]

On what kind of water/species?

[FryDog62]

On 8/10/2023 at 8:16 PM, Munkin said:

 

I can catch a bass out of my toilet with these.

 

Allen

Brown Bass?

[Reel]

We have gobies around where I fish.  What I want is not more action but less action.  The TRD suits my needs.

[FryDog62]

On 8/9/2023 at 11:21 PM, RRocket said:

The Dolive Beaver is fairly exceptional...particularly on a Free Rig. On the way down, the arms flap like crazy. But when the weight hits bottom it changes to a glide down. See at the 5 minute mark of this video.

 

Can confirm this is exactly how it's worked when I've used it.

 

 

If you typically Free Rig at 8-12 fow, what weight do you typically use with the DoLive Beaver?  The video looked fairly heavy fall rate to get that fall action at the 5 minute mark, but I agree it looked good. Thx

[SproDD79]

On 8/13/2023 at 6:06 AM, Ohioguy25 said:

On what kind of water/species?

Smallmouth and rock bass have really been into the ned bug this year on the lakes I fish.

[bowhunter63]

I have been doing well on the Ned Rage bug this year. Let the fish tell ya what kind of mood there in 

[RRocket]

12 hours ago, FryDog62 said:

If you typically Free Rig at 8-12 fow, what weight do you typically use with the DoLive Beaver?  The video looked fairly heavy fall rate to get that fall action at the 5 minute mark, but I agree it looked good. Thx

Well that was using a 7g weight which is 1/4 oz.

 

In the video below, at around the 2:38 mark you can see the same action with a 1/10 oz (2.7g). And further in the video a 3/16oz (5g) is used.

 

 

[RealtreeByGod]

There's some study I read somewhere that said plain-ol' small stickbaits out perform all the meme Ned craws and creatures that have came out recently. 

 

Which I guess makes sense that a finicky bass would be more willing to attack something that can't pinch it.

[Ohioguy25]

On 8/14/2023 at 5:40 PM, RealtreeByGod said:

There's some study I read somewhere that said plain-ol' small stickbaits out perform all the meme Ned craws and creatures that have came out recently. 

 

Which I guess makes sense that a finicky bass would be more willing to attack something that can't pinch it.

Yup I’ve heard this too

[Bankc]

I have trouble comparing it to the Ned.  The reason being that, for me, the Ned rig works best when you need something extremely subtle.  So putting claws and flappers on it is a step in the wrong direction.  

 

I mean, it would definitely work in the right circumstances.  But I'd rather think of it as an alternative to a T-rig or other, less subtle soft plastics.  But I guess that's just my opinion, as to me, a Ned rig and drop shot are kind of a last resort option.  

[WRB]

When the bite shutoff completely at our local lakes I tried with success using Fishlab natural nymph on a 1/8th jig and caught a few bass. Durablecsoft plastic with 4 wings that have good movement at slow retrieve or on the fall.

Check them out!

Tom

[Ohioguy25]

9 hours ago, WRB said:

When the bite shutoff completely at our local lakes I tried with success using Fishlab natural nymph on a 1/8th jig and caught a few bass. Durablecsoft plastic with 4 wings that have good movement at slow retrieve or on the fall.

Check them out!

Tom

Think this would work ned rigged on an EWG or regular ball jig better, or maybe shaky head?