Aaron_H Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 I'd be curious to feel one in-hand to see how that triangular grip feels. Taste is subjective, but I think visually it's a clean looking rod. Perhaps a bit boring but that's not a big deal. If they feel good and fish good, sounds like a win for St Croix. I've played with a handful of Bass X rods and I've fished with a Mojo Inshore for a little bit and other than being a bit tip-heavy they were nice rods for the money. QC issues suck but they can happen to any company. 2 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Aaron_H said: I'd be curious to feel one in-hand to see how that triangular grip feels. Taste is subjective, but I think visually it's a clean looking rod. Perhaps a bit boring but that's not a big deal. If they feel good and fish good, sounds like a win for St Croix. I've played with a handful of Bass X rods and I've fished with a Mojo Inshore for a little bit and other than being a bit tip-heavy they were nice rods for the money. QC issues suck but they can happen to any company. The claimed benefit of a triangle grip is legitimate, they’ve been used on saltwater rods for a long time. I’m not sure it translates to bass, trout, walleye rods etc. I haven’t put a foregrip on a bass rod in years and so little of the hand even contacts the grip when casting and palming a reel I feel like the seat is more of a factor. Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted August 6, 2023 Super User Posted August 6, 2023 On 8/4/2023 at 3:21 PM, webertime said: What confuses me is the Victory is a slightly better blank and US made but only $10 more than the MOJO. Does the grip really make that much of a difference? No reason to not upgrade really. From what I understand the new Mojo Bass is the same as the old with an updated look where the Victory is straight up a better rod. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted August 6, 2023 Super User Posted August 6, 2023 I've always been a fan of St Croix rods and I thought the Mojo line was a good sub $200 rod when they moved to SCIII graphite blanks, especially when compared to the SCII Bass X and Premier lines. At this point though I too would be leaning toward the Victory for a just a few dollars more, a better blank and better looking. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted August 6, 2023 Author BassResource.com Administrator Posted August 6, 2023 As far as I know, I'm the only one on this thread that has actually seen and held this rod. Lot's of final decisions, though. Interesting reaction to something new and different. 2 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 6, 2023 Super User Posted August 6, 2023 they thinned out the profile on one axis saying the human hand doesn't grip round things as well? I argue the system isn't round since we palm the reel. anthropometric is a great word. 1 Quote
garroyo130 Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 55 minutes ago, Glenn said: As far as I know, I'm the only one on this thread that has actually seen and held this rod. Lot's of final decisions, though. Interesting reaction to something new and different. Maybe I missed it, but what's your opinion, since you've handled it? Quote
TNBankFishing Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Glenn said: As far as I know, I'm the only one on this thread that has actually seen and held this rod. Lot's of final decisions, though. Interesting reaction to something new and different. People are always creatures of habit and tend to distrust change even if it ends up benefiting them long term. I’m all for anything which makes my hobby more enjoyable or less taxing on my body. I’m going to at least try one of these for a season. 1 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted August 6, 2023 Author BassResource.com Administrator Posted August 6, 2023 41 minutes ago, garroyo130 said: what's your opinion, since you've handled it? When I picked it up, it fit like a custom glove. Very natural. I was surprised because a rod is a rod, right? So I wasn't expecting anything different. While I haven't fished one yet (that will happen soon), I could tell this would be beneficial for crankbait fishing and most casts with spinning rods, because two-handed casts are common. But I also backhand cast quite often. So I can see it helping with that too. Basically, anything that requires a two-handed cast would improve. That was my immediate impression. Will it make a difference for casts where you're primarily holding the reel, such as flipping/pitching? Logic says "no", but I'll wait until I try it first before passing judgement. 1 Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 I can see where the triangular shape could be a benefit. Years ago Washburn had a triangular shaped neck on some of their guitars. I've got an 80's A-10 "Stage Series" Washburn that has it and it really does make a comfortable grup. That being said, I think I would be more apt to like it on the spinning rods as I like a spinning rod with a foregrip and hate rods with threads in front of the reel. When it comes to baitcasters, I am typically palming the reel (even while casting) and as Mike from DVT suggested, I care less about the handle shape and more about the reel seat. I kind of appreciate St. Croix thinking outside the box though. The Legend Extreme is a departure from the norm too. I picked up a "B" condition Extreme at the factory store in Park Falls ( only way I can justify $$) and am still trying to decide if I like it.... I don't dislike it though 1 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 6, 2023 Super User Posted August 6, 2023 you would change all your existing rods over to this one if the handle is a game changer? Quote
Aaron_H Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 17 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: The claimed benefit of a triangle grip is legitimate, they’ve been used on saltwater rods for a long time. I’m not sure it translates to bass, trout, walleye rods etc. I haven’t put a foregrip on a bass rod in years and so little of the hand even contacts the grip when casting and palming a reel I feel like the seat is more of a factor. Yeah I'm pretty familiar with them on bottom fishing rods (grew up snapper and grouper fishing the Atlantic and Gulf, bass fishing is a newer passion for me), but the mechanics (for me, at least) between my bottom fishing rods and my bass rods are very different, so I'd be curious to get one of the new Mojo's in hand to really get a feel for it. Triangular grips/handles have been around for a long time in plenty of other hand-based products, the ergonomics do make sense and I doubt the shape would feel bad here. Quote
Johnbt Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 But why did they name it after a supervillain Demon that was introduced by DC Comics in 1980 and 1981? "Trigon is a supervillain appearing in media published by DC Comics. He is one of the most powerful beings in the DC Universe, having enslaved many worlds and dimensions." 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Posted August 7, 2023 @Johnbt - original definition is 'Triangle', indicative of it's shape...it was also the name of an ancient Greek string instrument that was in the shape of a triangle...DC thought the name was cool and co-opted it. Quote
Johnbt Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 trigon, trigonon, Greek. Maybe they liked the DC Universe demon connection. The DC Universe is hugely popular if you believe the movie tickets sales numbers, although completely after my time - I stopped reading comic books in the late '50s and they didn't name the company DC Comics until 1977. Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Posted August 7, 2023 but yea. total truth. i have never held a rod like that before. yup. handle aside. how is the rod blank? any good? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Posted August 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: how is the rod blank? any good? From what I've read - it's the same SC-III blank as the previous model. Just the handle shape and reel seat have changed. They've added a few powers/actions, including BFS and a couple new spinning models...but basically it's the same Mojo we've come to love, just with the weird handle thingie. Quote
Eric 26 Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) Didn’t Lews try this out with a Winn grip version ? If I’m not mistaken they based the handle off of a golf club. I just googled it and it was the custom plus super grip rod. Not quite the same but it was flat on top of the handle. I don’t think it caught on very well but I may be wrong. Edited August 7, 2023 by Eric 26 Content Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Posted August 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: From what I've read - it's the same SC-III blank as the previous model. Just the handle shape and reel seat have changed. They've added a few powers/actions, including BFS and a couple new spinning models...but basically it's the same Mojo we've come to love, just with the weird handle thingie. Also, I know the old ones were a deep purple color. The new ones look black...at least in videos. Quote
NoFroFishing Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Love the look and attempt at bringing better ergonomics. I will be ordering the 7'1 M spinning soon. Would love to see further video reviews but they are so new that might be a little while out. Regardless I am getting one. In theory the triangle grip makes sense so I cannot wait to give them a try. On 8/4/2023 at 3:21 PM, webertime said: What confuses me is the Victory is a slightly better blank and US made but only $10 more than the MOJO. Does the grip really make that much of a difference? For me it would. The Victory casting model was extremely uncomfortable for me to use. Way too slim and I was cramping within 30 minutes. The Spinning rod was ok but the rod felt like a noodle. I am hoping the Mojo line is more true. Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted August 8, 2023 Global Moderator Posted August 8, 2023 As far as the name goes, my theory is the shape is a triangle which is also a polygon. Mesh the two up and you have Trigon. Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted August 11, 2023 Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/6/2023 at 10:58 AM, Glenn said: As far as I know, I'm the only one on this thread that has actually seen and held this rod Until today. ? 1 Quote
MiceNReets Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 9 hours ago, 12poundbass said: Until today. ? Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted August 11, 2023 Global Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 I’ll admit the pictures didn’t make the handle look very appealing but in person I really like it. As for the Trigon shape itself, it does feel very comfortable in my hand and has the same quality you’d expect from St. Croix. It just showed up yesterday so I won’t be able to put it through the motions until Sunday. I ended up getting the 7’ 4” HF. 5 Quote
NoFroFishing Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 Man I think those look awesome. Does the action feel true? I thought the Victories were really soft. 2 Quote
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