Double Uni knot for braid to fluro?

[VTFan]

Just wondering if any of you use the Double Uni knot for tying braid to fluro and if so how do you like it?  I've been using the FG knot but I'm not really proficient at it and don't always get it right whereas I am proficient with the Double Uni. Thanks and tight lines. 

[gim]

I use the double uni for braid (not raid) to fluoro.

 

There may be better or easier knots out there for this application, but I’m fairly proficient at it now and it holds up pretty well for me.

[MN Fisher]

I use the double uni for backing to mainline - for mainline to leader it's the FG when pre-rigging before a trip, but Alberto if I'm re-tying a leader in the boat. I'm tying leaders that are long enough to get into the spool, and the double uni always seems to want to hang up on a cast where-as I don't have that issue with FG or Alberto.

[bulldog1935]

Wrong choice.  

I use improved Allbright knot on both ends - of course, I've been rolling these 40 years.  

 

 

Double-uni is the right knot to join mono of the same diameter, or braid of the same diameter, but not mono to different diameter braid.  

[bp_fowler]

I’ve tried braid to leader setups twice.  The first time I used the double uni because like you I was more proficient with it.  The first time out on my fourth cast it snapped going through the guides.  
It actually soured me on braid to leader for a while.

 

Recently decided to give it another chance. Used the FG knot and have had zero issues with it.  I also think it’s worthwhile to say that this was the first FG knot I’ve ever tied.
 

I’m not saying that you have to use the FG, but in my opinion if you’re going to do braid to leader don’t use the double uni.  
 

[Bass Rutten]

The back to back uni is tried and true but is slightly bigger than other knots causing noise and friction (distance thief) from guide contact. I’ll take the blood knot (highly slept on), or the crazy alberto over the uni2uni, but the FG was well worth the headache to learn and is my go to.

[VTFan]

Thanks guys. To show how...non proficient I am with the FG, I had two of them slip on me yesterday on the lake and two of them when I got home retying.  Finally got it right....I hope. To me it's actually a fun knot to tie when I get it right.  HaHa..

[MickD]

The FG was developed for heavy salt leaders, and since it depends on deforming the leader to provide a mechanical lock, it works better on heavier leaders.  I won't use it on anything under 15 pound test, although I know many do make it work.  But I cannot make it reliably for lighter leaders.  The Alberto is easy, almost as small, and with a couple half hitches of the braid tag end onto the end of the knot, it is highly reliable.  

 

If one uses 4 mm micros and leaders of about 15 pound test, the double uni is just too big to cleanly go through the guides even though it obviously does fit through the guides 

[The Baron]

I have used (and still do use) the double uni, and it’s worked well for me.  I’m somewhat comfortable with the FG knot now, so only use the double uni to retie on the water because I take so long to tie an FG.   Yes the uni knot is bigger, but on 15-20# braid and 8-10# fluro leader it’s not bad and I trust it.  I can see how it would be way too big on heavier lines though. 
 

I struggled with the FG knot with an 8# fluro leader, but seem to do better with 10#.  Once I have a good looking FG tied, I tighten it down hard by wrapping the line around a couple pieces of 1” dowel and watching the knot really sink in.  

[Fishingmickey]

13 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Wrong choice.  

I use improved Allbright knot on both ends - of course, I've been rolling these 40 years.  

 

Quick question Bulldog, What do you use to coat your knots with?

FM

[tunaman]

Been using it, fresh and salt, since I learned it in the mid-80’s. I use it as my main knot, and line-to-line connector, for everything from 4# to 60#.

 

I can tie it with my eyes closed, and have complete and proven confidence in it.

 

Often times I’ll use soft bait glue on the splice to mitigate guide drag.

[Darth-Baiter]

1 hour ago, Fishingmickey said:

Quick question Bulldog, What do you use to coat your knots with?

FM

i dont know what he uses, but i use LOON UV knot sense.  it dries into a rubbery flexible smooth coat.  i only use it if i am tying something in the luxury of my garage.  i walk into the sunlight to UV cure the resin.  i need to buy a UV light.

[Steveo-1969]

14 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Wrong choice.  

I use improved Allbright knot on both ends - of course, I've been rolling these 40 years.  

 

The uni-to-uni isn’t the “wrong” choice, it’s a “different” choice.

 

The wrong choice is using a connection knot you can’t tie perfectly EVERY time.

[bulldog1935]

3 hours ago, Fishingmickey said:

Quick question Bulldog, What do you use to coat your knots with?

FM

Hi friend, I just wet the knot with pink-label Zap CA+ while it's hanging with a light load 

My knots have lasted 3 years, though good thing I put on a new leader in the spring.  

[Fishingmickey]

1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said:

Hi friend, I just wet the knot with pink-label Zap CA+ while it's hanging with a light load 

My knots have lasted 3 years, though good thing I put on a new leader in the spring.  

Beautiful Speck! I hope to hit the salt here soon.

FM

[GetFishorDieTryin]

Uni-Uni is a good knot, its a little bulky and doesn't run through guides as well as others.  My go to knot is an Alberto.  Theyre really easy to tie, incredibly strong, and very small.  

 

1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said:

Hi friend, I just wet the knot with pink-label Zap CA+ while it's hanging with a light load 

My knots have lasted 3 years, though good thing I put on a new leader in the spring.  

If you really like them Omen Greens grab a couple more while you can.  13 discounted both the Fate and Omen Green lines.  There coming out with a new SW Omen thats going to have the 36t Toray and I think there going to fuji K guides with fazlite inserts.  There's some info on the spinning rods, but they havent even confirmed they're putting out casting models, which is kind of strange.

[you]

3 hours ago, Steveo-1969 said:

The wrong choice is using a connection knot you can’t tie perfectly EVERY time.

 

This is the answer.

 

Tying a good knot involves building years worth of muscle memory and sensitivity to potential faults. I’ll bet everyone here knows that feeling after they tied a knot that looked fine but didn’t quite feel right, then immediately retied.

 

Most commonly used knots perform equivalently well when tied perfectly. Most commonly used knots are unreliable when they aren’t tied perfectly. Just takes time to learn the technique.

[Bankc]

7 hours ago, MickD said:

The FG was developed for heavy salt leaders, and since it depends on deforming the leader to provide a mechanical lock, it works better on heavier leaders.  I won't use it on anything under 15 pound test, although I know many do make it work.  But I cannot make it reliably for lighter leaders.  The Alberto is easy, almost as small, and with a couple half hitches of the braid tag end onto the end of the knot, it is highly reliable.  

 

If one uses 4 mm micros and leaders of about 15 pound test, the double uni is just too big to cleanly go through the guides even though it obviously does fit through the guides 

What size mainline are you using?  I've never had issues with the FG and thinner leaders.  But my braided mainline is always a smaller diameter than my leader.  For instance, if I'm fishing a 10# leader, I won't use more than a 30# braid.  And if I'm fishing a 6# leader, I'll use a 10# braid.  

 

I'll use the double uni when I'm in a hurry.  But I don't trust it as much as I trust the FG and it's not as small of a knot.   But it's a lot easier to tie if you're in a hurry and it holds well enough for most occasions, so it's a suitable alternative for me.  

 

Generally, I'll tie my leaders at home using the FG and leave about 10-12 feet of leader, so I have plenty of room to retie the next time I'm out on the water.  The FG isn't a difficult knot to tie, but it does take a while and it's pretty cumbersome.  I definitely don't like trying to tie an FG in my kayak if the winds are up.  

 

 

[MickD]

2 hours ago, Bankc said:

What size mainline are you using?  I've never had issues with the FG and thinner leaders.  But my braided mainline is always a smaller diameter than my leader.  For instance, if I'm fishing a 10# leader, I won't use more than a 30# braid.  And if I'm fishing a 6# leader, I'll use a 10# braid.  

I just don't see the FG for 6 pound leaders, but if it works for you, great.  I just cannot get it to work on that light a leader.  But for leaders as light and small as that, no need for an FG.  A double uni will work for any guide size with 6 pound leaders.  15 or 20's, not so.

[Dan N]

I’ve been using the uni to uni for braid to floro and mono for a few years without issues.

[VTFan]

Ok, I use high viz yellow braid on my spinning rod with a clear fluro leader.  My brother uses all braid (green) and catches just as many or maybe even more fish that I do sometimes.  I use the high viz yellow so I can see the line more easily. I've been thinking about trying high viz yellow braid main line to a green braid leader.  How would a double uni knot work for that?

[BrianMDTX]

Double-Uni for backing to main line. Lefty Kreh knot for braid to leader. 

[JackstrawIII]

I use the FG knot exclusively. I found a great video on how to tie it and have loved it ever since:
 

 

[Maggiesmaster]

I use the Shin knot as it’s a little smaller than the Alberto.  I haven’t had one come loose, and can even tie it in the boat. Doesn’t work on micro guides, though. Don’t want to attempt the FG knot!

[PaulVE64]

On 8/4/2023 at 7:07 AM, VTFan said:

Ok, I use high viz yellow braid on my spinning rod with a clear fluro leader.  My brother uses all braid (green) and catches just as many or maybe even more fish that I do sometimes.  I use the high viz yellow so I can see the line more easily. I've been thinking about trying high viz yellow braid main line to a green braid leader.  How would a double uni knot work for that?

It will work but if your going all braid then just take a permanent marker to the last 10 ft of the hi vis.

 

I've never tried this but if looks nice