SIBO - you ever heard of this?

[ironbjorn]

Small intestinal bacteria overgrowth. This causes unbelievable gas, bloating, gut pain, nausea, fatigue, and diarrhea.

 

I currently have this. I've had COVID twice, I've had Swine Flu, I've had MRSA, I've had gout flares that made me unable to walk for 2-3 weeks, and some other wild crap in my life, but this is by far the worst thing ever. I'd take any of those ailments over this. I'm mostly just dealing with the gassiness and bloating and discomfort/pain. Oh my God it's such slow moving gas. I'm not farting my brains out and that's the problem with it. It just builds and builds until I finally let a huge one rip and it's short lived instant relief. I cannot possibly describe how miserable this is. It sounds funny that flatulence is this big of a problem but my God. Oh my God. I'm freaking crippled.

Oh thank the Lord I'm a man. The gas women get with pregnancy and periods isn't for me man. 

[TnRiver46]

My brother has had giardia for like a year and a half

now , sounds somewhat similar. Hopefully they get you straightened out, they can’t seem to kill it for him. I want to say they even surgically removed some of his guts 

[Skunkmaster-k]

Is there a treatment?

[12poundbass]

I had a coworker who thought he had this and went to a holistic doctor. They had him basically starve himself only eating radishes, and carrots to basically empty everything in his body and start over with a new bacteria. He was so malnourished he had fog brain and I sent him home because he wasn’t all there. I won’t even go into detail their second treatment they wanted to do if this didn’t work.

 

I was talking with him about his symptoms which were very similar to yours and were similar to symptoms I was having. I did a lot of research and determined I had IBS. I took some of my wife’s IBS pills and it helped take care of it almost completely. I didn’t want to be on those pills for and extended time and my wife suggested peppermint pills. Those were a ton better and cheaper.

 

Maybe check into IBS. The best thing you can do if figure out what your trigger foods are. My are eggs, spicey foods, and garlic. I can handle them all in moderation.

[JackstrawIII]

Yes I’ve heard of it and was even treated for it once with antibiotics. 
 

Best long term solution for me has been eating carefully. I basically eat foods that are approved on the AIP diet, with a couple modifications. 
 

AIP is Auto Immune Protocol. This diet is generally healthy for everyone. 

[galyonj]

Never heard of it, but I'm pretty sure that SWMBO has something wrong with her like that.

 

She doesn't pass gas, she commits war crimes.

[FryDog62]

One of my adult kids got systemic Lyme disease and attacked the digestive system and ended up with SIBO for a couple years.  Started taking Kambucha to re-set the gut, it helped a lot - worth looking into.

[Darth-Baiter]

worse than GOUT??!!!!  wow.  that must be awful, because a Gout attack flat out blows..

 

hope you get this figured out.  get your lady to pull your finger?

[throttleplate]

On 8/1/2023 at 8:54 AM, ironbjorn said:

 

Oh thank the Lord I'm a man. The gas women get with pregnancy and periods isn't for me man. 

[slonezp]

On 8/1/2023 at 9:33 AM, 12poundbass said:

I had a coworker who thought he had this and went to a holistic doctor. They had him basically starve himself only eating radishes, and carrots to basically empty everything in his body and start over with a new bacteria. He was so malnourished he had fog brain and I sent him home because he wasn’t all there. I won’t even go into detail their second treatment they wanted to do if this didn’t work.

 

I was talking with him about his symptoms which were very similar to yours and were similar to symptoms I was having. I did a lot of research and determined I had IBS. I took some of my wife’s IBS pills and it helped take care of it almost completely. I didn’t want to be on those pills for and extended time and my wife suggested peppermint pills. Those were a ton better and cheaper.

 

Maybe check into IBS. The best thing you can do if figure out what your trigger foods are. My are eggs, spicey foods, and garlic. I can handle them all in moderation.

So you're a doctor now? First a mod, now a doctor. What's next on the horizon?

[12poundbass]

Just now, slonezp said:

So you're a doctor now? 

No, just someone who stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. 

[ironbjorn]

On 8/1/2023 at 10:23 AM, TnRiver46 said:

My brother has had giardia for like a year and a half

now , sounds somewhat similar. Hopefully they get you straightened out, they can’t seem to kill it for him. I want to say they even surgically removed some of his guts 

That's insane. I watch "Naked and Afraid" and "Alone" religiously and sometimes they have to get extracted due to giardia. They're seriously ill when leaving, and then good as new on the follow up. I had no idea you could have it for that long.

 

On 8/1/2023 at 10:28 AM, Skunkmaster-k said:

Is there a treatment?

Antibiotics, diet, and finding the source of the problem. From my understanding, SIBO is the end result of something else. 

 

On 8/1/2023 at 10:33 AM, 12poundbass said:

I had a coworker who thought he had this and went to a holistic doctor. They had him basically starve himself only eating radishes, and carrots to basically empty everything in his body and start over with a new bacteria. He was so malnourished he had fog brain and I sent him home because he wasn’t all there. I won’t even go into detail their second treatment they wanted to do if this didn’t work.

 

I was talking with him about his symptoms which were very similar to yours and were similar to symptoms I was having. I did a lot of research and determined I had IBS. I took some of my wife’s IBS pills and it helped take care of it almost completely. I didn’t want to be on those pills for and extended time and my wife suggested peppermint pills. Those were a ton better and cheaper.

 

Maybe check into IBS. The best thing you can do if figure out what your trigger foods are. My are eggs, spicey foods, and garlic. I can handle them all in moderation.

IBS can cause SIBO, but I've never had IBS before, and I wasn't having IBS issues when this all started several weeks ago now. 

 

18 hours ago, JackstrawIII said:

Yes I’ve heard of it and was even treated for it once with antibiotics. 
 

Best long term solution for me has been eating carefully. I basically eat foods that are approved on the AIP diet, with a couple modifications. 
 

AIP is Auto Immune Protocol. This diet is generally healthy for everyone. 

How long did it take for you to get relief from your symptoms?

 

16 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

worse than GOUT??!!!!  wow.  that must be awful, because a Gout attack flat out blows..

 

hope you get this figured out.  get your lady to pull your finger?

Well, gout is the worst pain I've ever experienced in my life. My podiatrist said it's comparable to child birth in the level of pain some people experience, which for me is severe. Uric Acid charts range from 0-12. At my worst my Uric Acid was 11.6, the highest my podiatrist had ever seen in her career. Allopurinol set me right though and now I don't really have issues with it. But yes I would rather have gout because while I can't walk for a few weeks during a flare and the pain is awful, I know it will pass and I have a high pain tolerance. It's just a foot. There's something about having all these miserable symptoms in your highly important mid section of your body that's just so much worse.

 

 

[JackstrawIII]

1 hour ago, ironbjorn said:

How long did it take for you to get relief from your symptoms?

For me, clean eating for about 2 weeks helped. If I continue eating clean, I’m good to go. That, along with some antibiotics. Can’t remember what they were, but I remember the doc saying that they usually give that type to women with vaginal yeast infections. 

[ironbjorn]

3 hours ago, JackstrawIII said:

For me, clean eating for about 2 weeks helped. If I continue eating clean, I’m good to go. That, along with some antibiotics. Can’t remember what they were, but I remember the doc saying that they usually give that type to women with vaginal yeast infections. 

I got the Rifaximin antibiotic from the doctor this morning. No formal test (but I see the gastro specialist in October), but he strongly suspects SIBO. It started in May-June with 25lb unintentional weight loss. We were baffled. I can stand to lose it, but it made no sense. Blood work showed severe vitamin B12 deficiency. It was in the 90s. Which again made no sense considering animal based food is a huge part of my daily diet. The doctor asked if I was vegan. Absolutely not. So I started taking 1,000 mcg supplements. Now since the beginning of July I've been unbelievably bloated, gassy, in discomfort and pain, and every time I poop it's pale, oily diarrhea. No doubt it's SIBO. All the hallmarks. Hopefully this antibiotic kicks it in the arse. Definitely gonna eat better too.

[12poundbass]

7 hours ago, ironbjorn said:

July I've been unbelievably bloated, gassy, in discomfort and pain, and every time I poop it's pale, oily diarrhea

All the hallmarks of IBS too. Give peppermint Pills a try. 

[TnRiver46]

My brother is in town, turns out they didn’t remove part of his guts, just repaired some. He thinks he is now giardia free but not 100% sure. He definitely confirmed he had it for 18 months, said he was ready to just dig a hole and climb in there for a while 

[ironbjorn]

11 hours ago, 12poundbass said:

All the hallmarks of IBS too. Give peppermint Pills a try. 

I'm not opposed to the idea and I'll definitely try it. Nothing can really hurt at this point. There's a lot of different gut issues that can cause weight loss, bloating, gas, discomfort, pain, diarrhea, etc. The doctor specifically thinks SIBO because of the vitamin B12 deficiency to go along with the gut issues. B12 is easily consumed in meat, fish, eggs. I'm a huge meat eater. So that makes no sense. When you have SIBO you become deficient in B12. It's the key to diagnoses.

[deaknh03]

Sounds like what a buddy went thru. He eneded up with holes in his intestines. They took the compromised areas out and he literally is as good as new.