St. Croix Premier Rods....

[BucketmouthAngler13]

I am thinking of getting a 6'6" Med. St Croix Premier for christmas.

I was looking around several sites for more info, and one said it weighed only 4 .oz!

Is it really that light?! or was it a typo? Becuase if it is that light, i am defanatly getting one.

Also, i know this is a extreamly dumb question, but how is "St. Croix" prenounced?

Thanks

Matt

[Bassassasin12]

yep, its 4 oz. and is a very light rod, even lighter than last years model. Pronounced St. Croye, kinda like that I think. Go for it bukcetmouth, its a very nice rod. Theres also the St. Croix Triumph that is a nice rod and I have a couple of those as well and they are very similar to the premier at a cost of 50-60 bucks.

[commish24]

Its pretty light and for the money nice and sensitive. I have a 6'6 pmlf and use it for drop shotting with 6lb line.

[BucketmouthAngler13]

alright thanks for streightening that out.

[toothdoc]

They are great rods.  I have 4 of them.  For the money you can't beat them and if you look around they are sometimes on sale.

[Absolute_St.Croix]

They are a decent rod. The only premier I own is a St.Croix Premier 8' Fly~rod. My dad uses an old beat to heck Premier 6'6" spinning rod though and they really are that light and very sensitive indeed. Just dont use a cheapo reel with it or you'll lose the proper balance point and lose some of your casting abilities. JMO.

[Guest avid]

St. Croix (the oix part has the "oy" sound like in boy) builds great rods.

I hate the fact that they put out that cheap triumph line.  I wouldn't mind the low price point but they are definitly not up to typcial St. Croix standards.

The primier is a great rod for the money.  You should be very happy with it.

[Hawgin]

Avid-

 I agree with you 100%.   I bought one of the Triumphs thinking that any rod made by St. Croix had to be decent, and I was thrilled about the price.  What a waste of money that turned out to be.  That thing has almost no sensitivity, and I only use it now for topwaters and spinnerbaits where a lot of "feel" isn't required.

As far as the Premiers, they are nice rods.  Light, tough, and a good amount of sensitivity.  I have a 6'6" Medium power, fast action spinning rod that I use for all of my finesse techniques.  I am switching all of my other rods over to Fenwicks, but I will definitely hold on to my Premier spinning rod.

[roadwarrior]

Avid,

As a big fan of St. Croix myself, it is very disappointing that they stooped to such a level with their Triumph. Over the long run, I think that is a big mistake.

Hawgin,

You didn't mention which Fenwick model you are looking at, but I have been impressed with the Techna AV.

[Captain Cali]

I fished with a Premier all summer and it was great. I'd buy another in a heart beat.

[tipptruck1]

I have two St. Croix premier rods and one avid rod. I have a premier crankbait rod and I love it. I can throw crank baits all day and not even fell it. My buddy that gets to hold my rods once and a while like on how light they are even with a reel on them. So you are making the right choice on the St. Croix.

[Guest the_muddy_man]

My first StCroix was a Triumph Now I have 2 Premiers No difference in the blank but the Premier is sooo much better built I stickin with the Premiers

[Hawgin]

RW,

 I currently have three Fenwicks.  A 7' MHF Techna AV, a 7' MF Techna Av, and a 6'6" MHM Eagle GT.   I know that my dad already bought a 6'10" Team All Star Big Boy flipping stick for me for Christmas(it was a ridiculously clearance priced at BPS), and I have the two St. Croix's, but anything in the future I purchase will be Fenwick, and probably Techna AV's.  They are the best rods I have used for the price.  I think they are on par with Loomis for sensitivity, but just a little heavier than the IMX/GLX's.

[senko_77]

matt, remember that st. croix runs one power up, so a "medium" is actually a medium heavy, a medium heavy is a heavy and so on.  just thought i would tell you that so you wouldnt be surprised after you bought it

[Guest the_muddy_man]

Hey Senko I believe RW said the oppisite that Med is actually ML I bet the raitngs are different between the Premier,Avids and Legends

[senko_77]

O ok.  Well the Premiere I had was a medium spinning rod and it ended up as a medium heavy.  So i guess Premieres run up.  Thanks for clearing that one up Mud

[BassnJoe]

I have three Avids and two Legend Tournaments.  IMO, they tend to run a power up, compared to my other rods.

Joe

[Craw]

I've been upgrading my gear lately and so far I've bought 2 St Croix Premier casting rods. I picked a 7' MF and a 6'6" MF. I got the 6'6" one this morning and took it out for the first time today. I'm extremely pleased with both rods so I plan to buy a few more as soon as I can.

[roadwarrior]

No the_muddy_man.

I have a ML, but my other two St. Croix rods are medium power. The Avid AC66MF has a soft tip which makes it what I consider my "all around" baitcaster, but I use different equipment for jigs and soft plastics (Legend Elite ES70MF). Maybe that was what I wrote that was confusing.

The Legend Elite is definitely "powered up" compared to G.Loomis or the Fenwick Techna AV, the other brands of rods I use and can compare.

[dink]

4 Premiers and 1 Legend Tournament.  Love them all so much I also have a hoodie, an insulated jacket, a Legend Tourney hat and a full size window decal in the back window of my truck.  I "sponsor" them ;D ;D ;D.

[Bean Counter]

I have a Triumph, a Premier and two Avid casting rods. I also have two Avid and one Premier fly rods. I like them all, especially the Avids. I have over 30 rods standing in my garage that I have accumulated over the years. In the future all my rod purchases will be St Croix.

[Absolute_St.Croix]

St. Croix (the oix part has the "oy" sound like in boy) builds great rods.

I hate the fact that they put out that cheap triumph line. I wouldn't mind the low price point but they are definitly not up to typcial St. Croix standards.

The primier is a great rod for the money. You should be very happy with it.

I agree. Also did you notice that REIGN line too? I'm not to shure about those either? I'll stick to the Avids and up. (I actually dont have an Avid but I would use them. They look great) I prefer the Legends and WIld River lines mainly cause thats what I'v been usin from St.Croix arsenal! LOL

[brad_snc]

I have a premier UL paired with a symetre 750... total weight= 8.5 ounces or just over a half pound.  When I switch to that after using my 7' avid baitcaster I don't even realize I'm holding a fishing rod.

[mike bat]

yup i have a few croix and plan to get a few more...love em ....

[Guest avid]

I think this debate (which comes up periodically) over the varioud weight ratings of different rod manufacturers is misleading.  Yes, it's true, that a medium St Coix avid will be stiffer than a medium gloomis, but there is so much more to it.

The taper of the rod, the speed points, where the softer tip meets the the "backbone" all play into the total rod experience.  It's kind of like when cars have "horsepower wars"  people focus on the horsepower but what good does it do you if the chassis can't handle it?

a Fenwick cannot be compared to a St. Croix, nor can a St. Croix be compared to a Loomis.  they are completely different designs based on the experience and biasis of the builder.  The only way to judge is to actually put the rod in your hand.  How does it feel, where is the balance point, how light is the tip, where does the action end and the backbone begin, and many other factors.  

Mostly it is subjective.  How does it feel to you.  Do you think it has the right tip, length, tip and spine to do the job you want it to do.

this is one of the very reasons why many serious anglers (meaning no endorsements) use one rod manufacturer.  They become familiar with that builders style and know what to expect when they change from one rod size to another.