New rod, what reel?

[NJBasstard]

Came home to a rod tube at my door from ALF. Thought to myself, "I didn't order anything?", than noticed a nice texts from a close friend telling me to enjoy my gift arriving today. WOW!!!

 

Anyways I've been intrigued by this rod since it's release but nobody local carries them and they're always on backorder when I looked online. If I'd known it was coming I would have been shopping around for a reel. It's the 7'3" SLX MH Swimbait rod rated 1-4oz. I wanted this rod for glides and swimbaits (all treble baits) in the 2oz-3oz range when I'm on the kayak, where I'm dealing with overhangs and mostly doing short to mid range target casting. 

 

First, does anybody have experience with this rod? Online reviews seam non-existent. Second, what size reel would pair well with it? I basically only use Shimano and Daiwa but I'm open to all suggestions. Not sure if a 200 size would be okay and handle that weight range. I'd rather keep this a budget setup so keep that in mind as well. Maybe $150 for the reel..

 

I only mounted the reel in the pic to play around with it. 

[Cbump]

Daiwa Tatula 200 from https://discountfishingdeals.com

[webertime]

Tat 200

[PhishLI]

A Curado K or a Tatula 150 will be fine for mid to short work with a 7'3" rod. They have nearly identical line capacity. If you see yourself ever using this rig when fishing off a boat deck then stepping up to the Tat 200 will be better if you want to bomb cast. It has greater line cap than the K or 150. The tat 150 is as rugged as the Tat 200.

[MediumMouthBass]

The Abu 5500/6500 C3 reels are what i use for my really big stuff (up to 6oz) its a very simple, reliable reel and doesnt cost much. But if you want a more modern reel for those baits i use a Lews Super Duty and a Daiwa Tatula 150. I fish 1-4oz swimbaits/glidebaits on these and it handles them good.

I have many swimbait casting reels from vintage to modern but if i were to recommend a reel it would be the Tatula 200, (in my opinion) this is the best swimbait reel you can get under a 300 size.

BTW the 200/150 Tatulas cost the same, the extra line capacity is much needed.

[PourMyOwn]

3 hours ago, Cbump said:

Daiwa Tatula 200 from https://discountfishingdeals.com

Just spent $85 there...fifteen minutes ago I had no idea it existed. You sir, are an enabler!

 

Seriously though, thanks- he had some discontinued items that I love at a heck of a good price!

[Cbump]

No problem. He’s an excellent seller. 

[NJBasstard]

Thanks for the replies. I have never handled the frame on the Tatula 150 or 200 models but I see the 200 mentioned a lot here and other places. It looks like the brakes aren't the same between the 150 and 200 but not sure of any other differences beside line capacity.. 

[Cbump]

41 minutes ago, NJBasstard said:

Thanks for the replies. I have never handled the frame on the Tatula 150 or 200 models but I see the 200 mentioned a lot here and other places. It looks like the brakes aren't the same between the 150 and 200 but not sure of any other differences beside line capacity.. 

Here’s a good thread. FYI I tried the 150 for 1-3 oz swimbaits and It didn’t feel braked enough. Someone will probably disagree but It just didn’t feel right for over 1oz baits. 200 is perfect. 
 

 

[MediumMouthBass]

Hey @Cbump havent heard anyone talk about that place except for you, also cant find any reveiws. They have some good prices im guessing since you posted about them youve dealt with them?

[Cbump]

Many many times. Probably 6-10 orders from him. He’s legit. 

@MediumMouthBass

[NJBasstard]

36 minutes ago, Cbump said:

Here’s a good thread. FYI I tried the 150 for 1-3 oz swimbaits and It didn’t feel brakes enough. Someone will probably disagree but It just didn’t feel right for over 1oz baits. 200 is perfect. 
 

 

 

Thankyou for the advice! What ratio would you recommend for both Glides and swimbaits? I see the IPT difference is about 4" between the 6 and 7 ratio.

[Cbump]

7 and I would slow retrieve down for swimbaits. 

[NorthernBasser]

9 hours ago, Cbump said:

Daiwa Tatula 200 from https://discountfishingdeals.com

I thought mixing rod/reel brands was a no-no for you. That is a nice reel tho. I have that on one of my swimbait rods.

[Cbump]

6 hours ago, NorthernBasser said:

I thought mixing rod/reel brands was a no-no for you. That is a nice reel tho. I have that on one of my swimbait rods.

Good catch! I halfazz read the post and thought he got an ark rod when I saw ALF. 
Disregard everything op. 

[dodgeguy]

Lew's bb1. Has plenty of line capacity and casts really far. The drag is strong and smooth.

 

[NorthernBasser]

3 hours ago, Cbump said:

Good catch! I halfazz read the post and thought he got an ark rod when I saw ALF. 
Disregard everything op. 

Us weird OCDers need to stick together! 

[Fishingmickey]

Well if it were me, throwing the bigger baits I'd lean toward Curado K 300 or the Lexa 300  or something that would allow for a decent amount of 20lb - 25lb mono. I feel it would handle the treble hooked baits better and provide the beefed up gearing needed for the bigger heavy weight baits.

FM

 

I know they are above your $150 target both are 219.00 on TW.

[LionHeart]

On 7/17/2023 at 1:31 PM, PhishLI said:

A Curado K or a Tatula 150 will be fine for mid to short work with a 7'3" rod. They have nearly identical line capacity. If you see yourself ever using this rig when fishing off a boat deck then stepping up to the Tat 200 will be better if you want to bomb cast. It has greater line cap than the K or 150. The tat 150 is as rugged as the Tat 200.

People have so many strange notions about gear when it comes to bass fishing.   One of the greatest mysteries to me is why people seem to believe you need a reel with high line capacity for lures that typically cast further. 

 

The Tatula holds 150 yards of line if I'm not mistaken.  You ever casted 150 yards?  Not coming at you, just an honest, blunt question.

[Kirtley Howe]

I like a reel with larger line capacity for a several of reasons. 

Where I fish I semi-often encounter Musky, Tiger Musky and Pike. I don't like losing lures because large fish like that can do a pretty massive run, especially if they get into the current, and I don't want to have them spool me. 

I also don't like to have to respool line while fishing, so if I lose a bunch of line...which happens a LOT where I fish..... I want to be able to just keep on fishing until it is convenient to respool (like when I get home). 

Also, on several of my reels I am using 20 or 25 lb mono (Big Game usually). which due to line diameter really cuts down on the amount of line you can fit on a reel.

So, basically, I am paranoid about getting spooled, lazy about respooling, and my reels really can't hold all that much line with the line I use, and I snag up A LOT.

[PhishLI]

34 minutes ago, LionHeart said:

. You ever casted 150 yards? 

Of course not.

34 minutes ago, LionHeart said:

The Tatula holds 150 yards of line if I'm not mistaken.

But which line?

 

The topic here is treble'd swimbaits up to 3 ounces. The pedestrian choice of 20lb Berkeley Big Game pops into my mind not only because I'm rather pedestrian myself and use it for those baits, but because it's a popular choice. The Tat 150 doesn't hold close to 450 feet of 20lb Big Game. It's thick line. 200 feet or so. Perhaps, maybe, a whiff more. Sounds perfect to me in a scenario where the limiting factor is the OP's stated intention for mid to short casts.

 

The Tat 200 holds even more line than the Curado K 200, and the other suggestions of 300 sized reels hold way more line than either.

 

The upside of the Tat 150 or the K 200 is their 28mm spools. Because of their extra width, their IPT will be less affected after the cast than most 25 mm spools found elsewhere in compact reels.

[LionHeart]

3 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

Of course not.

But which line?

 

The topic here is treble'd swimbaits up to 3 ounces. The pedestrian choice of 20lb Berkeley Big Game pops into my mind not only because I'm rather pedestrian myself and use it for those baits, but because it's a popular choice. The Tat 150 doesn't hold close to 450 feet of 20lb Big Game. It's thick line. 200 feet or so. Perhaps, maybe, a whiff more. Sounds perfect to me in a scenario where the limiting factor is the OP's stated intention for mid to short casts.

 

The Tat 200 holds even more line than the Curado K 200, and the other suggestions of 300 sized reels hold way more line than either.

 

The upside of the Tat 150 or the K 200 is their 28mm spools. Because of their extra width, their IPT will be less affected after the cast than most 25 mm spools found elsewhere in compact reels.

Man that's a very good point.

[Born 2 fish]

Tatula 200 is what I use on my 1-4 oz rod it holds plenty of 20 lb mono and has been strong for 2 years throwing 2-3 oz baits.