Power BFS Rod Recs

[badfish79]

Dobyns fish lighter, so maybe a 2 power? Sierra 682C

 

https://dobynsrods.com/product/sa-682c/

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I can’t believe no one has taken the “power bfs” phrase and run with it. You all are slippin’ . Lol

[JN94]

43 minutes ago, badfish79 said:

Dobyns fish lighter, so maybe a 2 power? Sierra 682C

 

https://dobynsrods.com/product/sa-682c/

I own this rod actually and love it. Idk that it will go down to 5g though

[Bass Rutten]

47 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I can’t believe no one has taken the “power bfs” phrase and run with it. You all are slippin’ . Lol

Who needs power bfs when we have...

BUBBA BFS

You heard it here first folks! 

[ska4fun]

@Delaware Valley Tackle  do you still mad?

 

@Bass Rutten LOL!

[badfish79]

12 hours ago, JNorman said:

I own this rod actually and love it. Idk that it will go down to 5g though

I had a DC702c that I felt handled 1/8-1/4 fine, but maybe the 4" shorter sienna has more power?

 

What is "power" bfs anyway? Like extra medium finesse?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

5 hours ago, ska4fun said:

@Delaware Valley Tackle  do you still mad?

 

@Bass Rutten LOL!

Never! It’s all good. 

[optimator]

I have the Phenix feather ML that frydog mentioned earlier. I haven’t tried anything lighter than a 1/16 Ned head and TRD but it works great for that weight. 

[casts_by_fly]

On 7/17/2023 at 10:31 AM, FryDog62 said:

Consider the "Light" then, its the one I use the most:

Phenix Feather Casting Rod 7'1" Light
Taper	Line Wt.	Lure Wt.	Guides	Handle Type	Handle Length	Stock	Price	Qty
Fast	4-10lb	1/8-3/8oz	10+Tip	Feather A	***/2"	In Stock: 5+	$149.00

 

 

23 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

 i have the Phenix Light.  i think it is as you describe perfectly.  i find it too "not whippy" enough..but it sounds like what you are looking for.

 

i'll be honest, i dont love the handle.  (i have two) the Feather is the first rod i picked up and my first impression was "yuck".   i have gotten used to it, but still.  

 

 

For you guys with the 'light', how light can you throw on it?  I picked up the kastking reel used on these forums and put it on an older lamiglas I built ages ago.  It a 1/8-1/2 blank with a moderate (maybe moderate fast) action.  I'd call it a ML power.  It will fling a TRD+1/20 a long way.  I can throw a 1/16 head and 2" crappie shad a good ways (about 1/12 oz total weight).  It won't load enough with a trout magnet or little hair jig.  I'd like to try lighter and the 1/8-3/8 rating on this appeals, though I'd prefer 1/16-3/8.  Thoughts?

[JN94]

1 hour ago, badfish79 said:

I had a DC702c that I felt handled 1/8-1/4 fine, but maybe the 4" shorter sienna has more power?

 

What is "power" bfs anyway? Like extra medium finesse?

Lol just referring to throwing weights on the heavier end of BFS territory. Kind of a dumb way to put it - I honestly get annoyed when I hear people use the term "power finesse" but here I am doing it myself ?. There's a lot of people out there that only consider BFS 3.5g and less so I guess I was just trying to clarify that I'm looking for a rod that can handle heavier than that

[badfish79]

Maybe step the 682 down to a 1 power? Sierra 691c?

https://dobynsrods.com/product/suf-691c/

[Darth-Baiter]

35 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

 

 

For you guys with the 'light', how light can you throw on it?  I picked up the kastking reel used on these forums and put it on an older lamiglas I built ages ago.  It a 1/8-1/2 blank with a moderate (maybe moderate fast) action.  I'd call it a ML power.  It will fling a TRD+1/20 a long way.  I can throw a 1/16 head and 2" crappie shad a good ways (about 1/12 oz total weight).  It won't load enough with a trout magnet or little hair jig.  I'd like to try lighter and the 1/8-3/8 rating on this appeals, though I'd prefer 1/16-3/8.  Thoughts?

i'm probably doing it wrong.  when i bought my reel the shop filled it with 8lb flouro.  i think i would go lighter. but i can fling a 1/16th with a small body bait fairly easily.

[MickD]

14 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I can’t believe no one has taken the “power bfs” phrase and run with it. You all are slippin’ . Lol

Me too.  Sounds like an oxymoron.  "ultra-light musky rod"  

[casts_by_fly]

23 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

i'm probably doing it wrong.  when i bought my reel the shop filled it with 8lb flouro.  i think i would go lighter. but i can fling a 1/16th with a small body bait fairly easily.

 

10 lb 832 is a great choice if you have some lying around.

 

I'm hopeful to find something that can go lighter than 1/16 plus rubber if possible.  I'd like to get into that 1.5g territory but since this isn't a rod I'll fish more than a couple times a year I don't want to go crazy on it.

 

7 minutes ago, MickD said:

Me too.  Sounds like an oxymoron.  "ultra-light musky rod"  

 

isn't that what we call bass rods?  Ultralight musky rods.

[Darth-Baiter]

4 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

10 lb 832 is a great choice if you have some lying around.

 

I'm hopeful to find something that can go lighter than 1/16 plus rubber if possible.  I'd like to get into that 1.5g territory but since this isn't a rod I'll fish more than a couple times a year I don't want to go crazy on it.

 

 

isn't that what we call bass rods?  Ultralight musky rods.

that would be my line choice.  but the shop filled it as a gift.  hahah..

[JN94]

54 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

i'm probably doing it wrong.  when i bought my reel the shop filled it with 8lb flouro.  i think i would go lighter. but i can fling a 1/16th with a small body bait fairly easily.

 

29 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

10 lb 832 is a great choice if you have some lying around.

 

I'm hopeful to find something that can go lighter than 1/16 plus rubber if possible.  I'd like to get into that 1.5g territory but since this isn't a rod I'll fish more than a couple times a year I don't want to go crazy on it.

 

 

isn't that what we call bass rods?  Ultralight musky rods.

I second 10lb 832. I'm using 10lb Sufix nanobraid at the moment and it's been great. Haven't had a single break off. I think 832 would do just as well though

[FryDog62]

4 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

 

 

For you guys with the 'light', how light can you throw on it?  I picked up the kastking reel used on these forums and put it on an older lamiglas I built ages ago.  It a 1/8-1/2 blank with a moderate (maybe moderate fast) action.  I'd call it a ML power.  It will fling a TRD+1/20 a long way.  I can throw a 1/16 head and 2" crappie shad a good ways (about 1/12 oz total weight).  It won't load enough with a trout magnet or little hair jig.  I'd like to try lighter and the 1/8-3/8 rating on this appeals, though I'd prefer 1/16-3/8.  Thoughts?

For me, the acid test was finding a BFS rod that could throw a 1/16th oz hair jig, and yet not completely fold around even light cover. The Dobyns BFS rod could throw the hair jig, but I wouldn't want to use it around even the lightest cover. It's not a "bass" BFS rod to me - more of a trout action. It seemed too light to throw a 1/5 oz Ned.

 

The ML Phenix Feather is almost exactly like my old Dobyns 702c. It can bring lures through light cover, but is too stiff to adequately throw a 1/16th oz hair jig. I use mine for heavier Neds (1/5 oz) and lighter Texas-rigs, or jig worms. 

 

Sounds like the Goldilocks story, but the Phenix Feather "Light" is best I've found in the middle to do both tasks reasonably well. Sometimes I wished it would load slightly more when casting, but 90% of the time it works great. It can bring a Ned head through some light cover, but I wouldn't want to use it around much more cover than that.  A 7'2" to 7'4" version might be perfect to get additional casting distance, and so maybe next I try the Phenix BFS Classic BFS rod, but my concern it is too much like the Dobyns 740 that I returned. 

[JN94]

4 hours ago, badfish79 said:

Maybe step the 682 down to a 1 power? Sierra 691c?

https://dobynsrods.com/product/suf-691c/

I own this rod and while I don't have enough time with it to say definitively, I'm concerned it doesn't have enough backbone for what I'm looking for. I need to use it more to get a solid feel for it though. It feels pretty whippy to me. I do like the rod a lot though for lighter stuff so far. Can cast 30yds consistently with stuff around 3g. I need something right in-between a Dobyns 1 and 2 power ?

[JN94]

Ended up going with an Old 18 Ascent that was rated 1/8-3/8. This was the 7' ML Mod Fast one. I've only had limited action with it but it seems to be what I'm looking for. I was actually using a Curado 70 MGL on it with 20lb braid and was getting 30 yard casts consistently with 5g, so it should fling even better with a proper BFS reel. So far, I'm a supporter of Old 18 rods for BFS sticks

[Jason Penn]

On 7/17/2023 at 8:52 PM, Bass Rutten said:

Who needs power bfs when we have...

BUBBA BFS

You heard it here first folks! 

sorry, i'm an old dude, and if i've been using "bubba bfs" for a pretty good while, it's been around for years! ??

[WRB]

Dobyns has introduced the Sierra Finesse series for BSF casting rod, several good choices?

Tom