Super User bulldog1935 Posted July 16, 2023 Super User Posted July 16, 2023 @Cbump - you don't have an application for bass finesse, and I get that. But you completely understand the desire for salt finesse, and I get that, too. The biggest problem with the moniker BFS is people want to shoe it into a box - it ain't gonna stay in anyone's box. 1
Bass Rutten Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 I could be totally wrong as the origins of bfs in bass fishing seems a bit muddled, but I was under the impression that throwing light lures on line that's to heavy for spinning gear was what brought bfs into the bass arena. If you want to cast light lures on 8 or 10 lb mono or fluoro then you do need bfs unless you're into self torture. I've read of it being done, but the one time I spooled up 8lb fluoro on a spinner sent me to my therapist. I'd call it a niche more than a trend or fad, and based on industry growth and relentlessly increasing fishing pressure it seems to me that it's here to stay. 2
garroyo130 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 tbh the problem is just the name bfs ... if someone marketed a new baitcaster as being able to cast down to 1/16oz people would have no problem with it. 2
Super User bulldog1935 Posted July 16, 2023 Super User Posted July 16, 2023 @Bass Rutten you're close - the origins of BFS for bass fishing in Japan were first for shore/bank fishing. How it's applied from a boat in a reservoir is one application. My applications on bass are wading headwaters creeks, and kayak in wide slow spots downriver. And I do a little of the reservoir from kayak stuff. (rivers and salt flats are my fishing love) The salt thing, I do shore, surf and kayak with different-length finesse rods. 4
ska4fun Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 The precision and higher IPT is what made stream anglers modify baitcasting reels to smaller trout lures/spoons. A baitcasting reel can make a spoon work way better against currents.
redmeansdistortion Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 Most stream and river rods work fine with BFS reels though. The difference lies in the application. When you step up to a H or XH, those are for fishing bait in fast current with weights often exceeding 2 ounces. MH and under will typically fall into the BFS category. The H and XH rods aren't thread line rated, but often rated for 2.0 to 3.0 PE which would be more like your usual 30lb+ braid. 1
Super User bulldog1935 Posted July 16, 2023 Super User Posted July 16, 2023 Bait Finesse System, coined in print in 2000 by Mr. Motoyama, is the reel. The combination of shallow lightweight spool, low-inertia bearings, and threadline. Finesse rods are aimed at specific niches, stream to offshore, and everything in between. . 1
JN94 Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Cbump said: Would love to try bfs in the salt. I did it just last week and caught lots of nice fish. First tried it about a year ago. It's perfect for sight fishing reds in the backs of creeks. Z-man salty Ned shrimp slays 2
Super User bulldog1935 Posted July 16, 2023 Super User Posted July 16, 2023 @JNorman Since the day I first tried in the salt, I said it makes fly rod obsolete for everything but moving water. 2
ska4fun Posted July 16, 2023 Posted July 16, 2023 5 hours ago, redmeansdistortion said: Most stream and river rods work fine with BFS reels though. The difference lies in the application. When you step up to a H or XH, those are for fishing bait in fast current with weights often exceeding 2 ounces. MH and under will typically fall into the BFS category. The H and XH rods aren't thread line rated, but often rated for 2.0 to 3.0 PE which would be more like your usual 30lb+ braid. LOL! 5 hours ago, bulldog1935 said: Bait Finesse System, coined in print in 2000 by Mr. Motoyama, is the reel. The combination of shallow lightweight spool, low-inertia bearings, and threadline. Finesse rods are aimed at specific niches, stream to offshore, and everything in between. . This explain the confusion over rods rating. Several brands rate BFS above the usual BFS rates, because they use flouro as a reference, without making it explicit.
Super User Maxximus Redneckus Posted July 16, 2023 Author Super User Posted July 16, 2023 I think it boils down to..if someone sees me using a tiny baitcaster..abu 1500c or a morrum 1600 .... they magically assume its BFS i was asked a couple times when i fish public ...nope just a med action 6ft rod with 10 lb line used them for 20 some yrs ... Don Ivonio back in the late 80s early 90s had rods made for "stitchin" made by berkley small lines on small baitcasters at the time it was 2500c and small morrums..6 lb and 8 lb line ..the rods were made so u could hold the forgrip and slowly pull the line with fingers after the cast and crank really slow..guess it lasted a couple yrs ..cool technically
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted July 16, 2023 Super User Posted July 16, 2023 I’m just looking forward to catching a lot more fish this week after reading this thread. ? 3 3
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted July 16, 2023 BassResource.com Administrator Posted July 16, 2023 And scene.... 4 1
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 17, 2023 Global Moderator Posted July 17, 2023 7 hours ago, bulldog1935 said: @Cbump - you don't have an application for bass finesse, and I get that. But you completely understand the desire for salt finesse, and I get that, too. The biggest problem with the moniker BFS is people want to shoe it into a box - it ain't gonna stay in anyone's box. Gator!!!!! 4 1
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