Super User LrgmouthShad Posted July 15, 2023 Super User Posted July 15, 2023 I have the zillion p. I use it for crankbaits, now, actually. Nice slow gear ratio and the zillion has a propensity to cast crankbaits quite a ways. Quote
jjwalker67 Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 Had a Zillion SV TW lasted almost a year then the brakes took a dump on me. Luckily bought a US version and was able to return it. Picked up a Shimano Aldebaran 50 MGL, smaller, lighter cast farther then the Zillion. I also had a Steez SV TW several years ago lock up on me beginning to question Daiwa’s reliability, although I still have another Steez, that seems to be OK. Also have the newer Bantam A which I find an improvement over the older Bantam MGL. It is a solid reel. The casting and reeling reminds me of the Antares A I used to have it just feels like a fine instrument. Only thing I don’t like how heavy it is. If you don’t mind the weight, Bantam > Zillion. Quote
philbert1922 Posted May 4, 2024 Posted May 4, 2024 On 7/10/2023 at 11:52 PM, Dan Strain said: You need to TRY a zillion with a Daiwa 1016 ( or 1012 ) spool and it’s THAT much better !! Way more “free” feeling - and you can keep the breaks considerably lower also I swapped spools with my Steez SV TW and the Steez is better with the SV BOOST and the Zillion is way better with the 1016 ( or 1012 for lighter baits ) i have 4 zillions and I don’t have the SV BOOST spool in any of them anymore it pretty much never backlashes What do you mean try it with 1016? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 4, 2024 Posted May 4, 2024 On 7/10/2023 at 1:46 PM, MiceNReets said: he’s right. Every other reel will feel like above. ? The zillion gives you epilepsy? 1 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted May 4, 2024 Super User Posted May 4, 2024 On 5/4/2024 at 5:42 AM, philbert1922 said: What do you mean try it with 1016? Answering out of turn. 1016SVBoost is the 16-lb mono-capacity spool that comes with Zillion SVTW - the spring returning the SV inductor is tuned for casting heavier weights farther. 1016SV is the spool that came stock with Steez SVTW, and the SV spring is tuned for casting both lighter and heavy weights more reliably. Other Daiwa spools that fit 34-mm Steez/Zillion platform are 1012SV, which is shallower 12-lb mono capacity (you can hunt down a JDM model delivered stock with 1012). 1000SVBoost PE Special is the spool that comes stock with Zillion Silver Wolf - it has 8-lb mono capacity and is a better choice for fishing light braid (PE#1.2 and thinner). There's a whole range of aftermarket spools for Steez/Zillion 34-mm platform. Roro-X on the right is the lightest of these, for casting 1/16 oz on PE#1 threadline braid. 2 Quote
philbert1922 Posted May 9, 2024 Posted May 9, 2024 On 5/4/2024 at 8:47 AM, bulldog1935 said: Answering out of turn. 1016SVBoost is the 16-lb mono-capacity spool that comes with Zillion SVTW - the spring returning the SV inductor is tuned for casting heavier weights farther. 1016SV is the spool that came stock with Steez SVTW, and the SV spring is tuned for casting both lighter and heavy weights more reliably. Other Daiwa spools that fit 34-mm Steez/Zillion platform are 1012SV, which is shallower 12-lb mono capacity (you can hunt down a JDM model delivered stock with 1012). 1000SVBoost PE Special is the spool that comes stock with Zillion Silver Wolf - it has 8-lb mono capacity and is a better choice for fishing light braid (PE#1.2 and thinner). There's a whole range of aftermarket spools for Steez/Zillion 34-mm platform. Roro-X on the right is the lightest of these, for casting 1/16 oz on PE#1 threadline braid. I just bought the Zillion 21 SVTW from the jdm. It was a great price. If I want a deeper spool I could swap it out for the Daiwa MAG-Z Boost 1000 G1 spool? Sorry, I'm just making sure I don't buy the wrong thing. I do a lot of bank fishing. So I like my distance. Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted May 9, 2024 Super User Posted May 9, 2024 @philbert1922 Mag-Z Boost 1000 G1 has slightly deeper capacity, and Jun rates it for casting no lighter than 1/4 oz. Steez/TD-Z Hypercast is Daiwa's deepest 1000 spool - Hedgehog shows discontinued, but Jun Sonada has stock. 1 Quote
philbert1922 Posted May 10, 2024 Posted May 10, 2024 9 hours ago, bulldog1935 said: @philbert1922 Mag-Z Boost 1000 G1 has slightly deeper capacity, and Jun rates it for casting no lighter than 1/4 oz. Steez/TD-Z Hypercast is Daiwa's deepest 1000 spool - Hedgehog shows discontinued, but Jun Sonada has stock. I think I'm just over thinking it. Lol I haven't even take it out yet but I think i will invest 1016. Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted May 10, 2024 Super User Posted May 10, 2024 @philbert1922 You should definitely try the 1016 stock spool - w/ 12-lb mono/fluoro, it will routinely cast 1/8 oz 85 to 90', which is plenty to fish. If you want supreme distance, Ray's Studio honeycomb SV spool gives you similar lure weight range, capacity for 6-lb mono and, better, fishes PE#1.2 braid, which is 25-lb breaking strength in Japan X-braid. I had to thumb to keep 1/8-oz casts out of my buddies across the tide pass, and from this side of the pass, I could fish the same broken grass where far-away Tony is fishing below. 1 Quote
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