Daiwa 21 Zillion SV TW 1000P

[Darth-Baiter]

i really have to pause and carefully read the specs on a reel sold in Japan.    AsianPortal appears to be sold out.  i'll keep searching after my mid morning meetings.  

 

but to be clear, this is the 7:1 ratio one right?  right handed?

 

it is this reel or the Shimano Bantam.  i am not kidding myself.  i will own both by Christmas, i am sure.  i like to answer my own question "bantam vs Zillion?" anyways. 

[AlabamaSpothunter]

No, the P is slowest....5.5 

 

You want the H model  ZILLION SV TW 21 ZILLION SV TW 1000H RIGHT (digitaka.com)

 

Word of caution, if you buy a new Zillion, either model....you're going to wish every single reel you fish with was one.    They ruined me, the drags, the smoothness, the price, everything, truly perfect Bass reels.  

[Darth-Baiter]

14 minutes ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

No, the P is slowest....5.5 

 

You want the H model  ZILLION SV TW 21 ZILLION SV TW 1000H RIGHT (digitaka.com)

 

Word of caution, if you buy a new Zillion, either model....you're going to wish every single reel you fish with was one.    They ruined me, the drags, the smoothness, the price, everything, truly perfect Bass reels.  

  dude.  you saved me!!  thanks!!!!!

 

and you can consider me warned...d**n it.  

[AlabamaSpothunter]

Just now, Darth-Baiter said:

  dude.  you saved me!!  thanks!!!!!

 

and you can consider me warned...d**n it.  

Happy to help, I know how happy my Zillions made me ?

[MiceNReets]

16 minutes ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

 

Word of caution, if you buy a new Zillion, either model....you're going to wish every single reel you fish with was one.    They ruined me, the drags, the smoothness, the price, everything, truly perfect Bass reels.  

 

 

he’s right.  Every other reel will feel like above.    ? 

[casts_by_fly]

I do love my zillion, but I love my Met also.  Its a hard choice between them.  I also love my chronarch MGL which is a little lighter than either and on one of my lighter rods.

[JN94]

Bantam easily. I own both and don't really like the zillion, but I am very much in the minority on that. The Bantam is absolutely perfect imo, I like it better than the metanium and the steez A2

[FishTank]

3 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

i really have to pause and carefully read the specs on a reel sold in Japan.    AsianPortal appears to be sold out.  i'll keep searching after my mid morning meetings.  

 

but to be clear, this is the 7:1 ratio one right?  right handed?

 

it is this reel or the Shimano Bantam.  i am not kidding myself.  i will own both by Christmas, i am sure.  i like to answer my own question "bantam vs Zillion?" anyways. 

What are you going to use it for?

 

 

[softwateronly]

2 hours ago, JNorman said:

Bantam easily. I own both and don't really like the zillion, but I am very much in the minority on that. The Bantam is absolutely perfect imo, I like it better than the metanium and the steez A2

 

I think I'm with you, though it's close.  Real close.

 

scott

[Cbump]

8 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

I do love my zillion, but I love my Met also.  Its a hard choice between them.  I also love my chronarch MGL which is a little lighter than either and on one of my lighter rods.

Love all these, my bantam, and my zillion hd also!

[Dan Strain]

You need to TRY a zillion with a Daiwa 1016 ( or 1012 ) spool and it’s THAT much better !! Way more “free” feeling - and you can keep the breaks considerably lower also 

 

I swapped spools with my Steez SV TW and the Steez is better with the SV BOOST and the Zillion is way better with the 1016 ( or 1012 for lighter baits )  

 
i have 4 zillions and I don’t have the SV BOOST spool in any of them anymore 

 

it pretty much never backlashes 

[newapti5]

11 hours ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

You want the H model

 

That's what I thought, until I see this:

 

 

 

I mean...

 

[JN94]

7 hours ago, Dan Strain said:

You need to TRY a zillion with a Daiwa 1016 ( or 1012 ) spool and it’s THAT much better !! Way more “free” feeling - and you can keep the breaks considerably lower also 

 

I swapped spools with my Steez SV TW and the Steez is better with the SV BOOST and the Zillion is way better with the 1016 ( or 1012 for lighter baits )  

 
i have 4 zillions and I don’t have the SV BOOST spool in any of them anymore 

 

it pretty much never backlashes 

Where can I find one of these? Does it work on a tatula sv?

[PhishLI]

2 hours ago, JNorman said:

Does it work on a tatula sv?

Nope.

[Fishingmickey]

9 hours ago, Dan Strain said:

You need to TRY a zillion with a Daiwa 1016 ( or 1012 ) spool and it’s THAT much better !! Way more “free” feeling - and you can keep the breaks considerably lower also

Couple of questions, Dan.  Are you using the 1016 or 1012 SV spool or just a RCSB 1016 or 1012 spool? Any source of supply that you've found to be better?

FM

[Darth-Baiter]

17 hours ago, FishTank said:

What are you going to use it for?

 

 

texas rigs and small jigs...on the X-Bites

17 hours ago, JNorman said:

Bantam easily. I own both and don't really like the zillion, but I am very much in the minority on that. The Bantam is absolutely perfect imo, I like it better than the metanium and the steez A2

killing me, Smalls..killing me.  

 

i could literally flip a coin at this point.   if lean towards Shimano, for sure. 

[JN94]

1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

Nope.

Is there one that does? I was thinking the other day I'd like to turn my SV into a semi bfs reel. Would like to be able to cast down to ~5g or so

[softwateronly]

50 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

texas rigs and small jigs...on the X-Bites

killing me, Smalls..killing me.  

 

i could literally flip a coin at this point.   if lean towards Shimano, for sure. 

I'm a bantam fan, it's my favorite reel.  I've only held an x-bites, but I think the bantam is unnecessarily heavy for that rod.  Shimano, I'd go Met.  Diawa, Zillion or Alphas.  I know it's only 1.5oz, but I'm a sucker for that good balance.  

 

scott

[FishTank]

59 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said:

texas rigs and small jigs...on the X-Bites

 

To add to the confusion.... I like the Metanium for jigs and the Zillion for Texas rigged soft plastic.  For jigs, I like the way the Metanium feels in the 8.x:1 gear ratio plus I like the larger stock handle. With the Zillion, it just a great all around reel.  

 

I do have the older Bantam and I like it. I have it on the P5 Super Destroyer.  I also added a larger Gomexus handle. It's my sort of do all setup.

[Dan Strain]

1 hour ago, Fishingmickey said:

Couple of questions, Dan.  Are you using the 1016 or 1012 SV spool or just a RCSB 1016 or 1012 spool? Any source of supply that you've found to be better?

FM

here’s one that I bought - 2 of mine came out of my Steez SV TW that I swapped. I bought these from Asian Portal Fishing - although I’ve just ordered another one from Amazon… Same price and nowhere near as fast 

 

3 of mine are the 1016 - one is a 1012 which came in one of my Steez and that’s actually what I’ve ordered through Amazon. I have the 1012 in a zillion on my 842c which I throw my lightest stuff on 

 

 

[Fishingmickey]

Thank you, Dan.

FM

[msgf91]

I was thinking about getting the 1000S spool for my zillion but now I'm thinking about trying the 1012 instead.

[JediAmoeba]

On 7/10/2023 at 1:28 PM, AlabamaSpothunter said:

 

Word of caution, if you buy a new Zillion, either model....you're going to wish every single reel you fish with was one.    They ruined me, the drags, the smoothness, the price, everything, truly perfect Bass reels.  

I don't know about that. I love mine, but they are small reels. I love my tat sv's just as much for many techniques. 

[PhishLI]

On 7/11/2023 at 11:07 AM, JNorman said:

Is there one that does? I was thinking the other day I'd like to turn my SV into a semi bfs reel. Would like to be able to cast down to ~5g or so

Perhaps @Tatulatard will chime in. He's the maven on aftermarket Tatula platform spools and such.

[Darth-Baiter]

On 7/10/2023 at 10:28 AM, AlabamaSpothunter said:

No, the P is slowest....5.5 

 

You want the H model  ZILLION SV TW 21 ZILLION SV TW 1000H RIGHT (digitaka.com)

 

Word of caution, if you buy a new Zillion, either model....you're going to wish every single reel you fish with was one.    They ruined me, the drags, the smoothness, the price, everything, truly perfect Bass reels.  

My wife is not happy w you. Jus saying