fin Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 I pulled some old PowerPro off an old reel I hadn’t used since 2018. The ends had never been swapped, so the line inside the reel had never been used. I put the old line on a new spinning reel and now I’m casting 25-50% further than I was with brand new PowerPro. I noticed the old line was stiffer, more abrasive, wiry and hard when I put it on. New PowerPro seems to be softer and more pliable, it doesn’t cast as far and it frays more easily. At least that is my experience. Is it just me? I know they modify their product over time. I prefer the old stuff. Is there another brand that has the qualities of the old stuff? Quote
Pogues2300 Posted July 8, 2023 Posted July 8, 2023 Hard to imagine stiffer = more casting distance. Maybe you liked it more so you gave it some more juice! I’ve got limited experience with power pro but interesting topic as apparently my local place can’t keep 30lb 832 in stock…. Braid shortage apparently 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted July 8, 2023 Super User Posted July 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Pogues2300 said: my local place can’t keep 30lb 832 in stock…. Braid shortage apparently Fleet Farm - on sale right now and free shipping...no minimum. https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/sufix-832-advanced-superline-low-vis-green-braided-fishing-line/0000000239261 1 Quote
fin Posted July 8, 2023 Author Posted July 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, Pogues2300 said: Hard to imagine stiffer = more casting distance. Maybe you liked it more so you gave it some more juice! I’ve got limited experience with power pro but interesting topic as apparently my local place can’t keep 30lb 832 in stock…. Braid shortage apparently Maybe "stiffer" isn't the right word. I tried several adjectives there. I think it comes off the spool easier. An extreme example would be like comparing a spool of stiff wire to a spool of yarn. The yarn kind of sticks together, the wire wants to jump off the spool. Suffix is even softer, in my limited experience. Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 9, 2023 Super User Posted July 9, 2023 7 hours ago, fin said: I pulled some old PowerPro off an old reel I hadn’t used since 2018. The ends had never been swapped, so the line inside the reel had never been used. I put the old line on a new spinning reel and now I’m casting 25-50% further than I was with brand new PowerPro. I noticed the old line was stiffer, more abrasive, wiry and hard when I put it on. New PowerPro seems to be softer and more pliable, it doesn’t cast as far and it frays more easily. At least that is my experience. Is it just me? I know they modify their product over time. I prefer the old stuff. Is there another brand that has the qualities of the old stuff? Old power pro is outdated. There are so many braids out there that are way better. Suffix 832 or Viscious No Fade Braid are 2. Quote
Justinfish Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, dodgeguy said: Old power pro is outdated Been using it for 25 years no issues. Tried others always come back to this line 1 Quote
fin Posted July 9, 2023 Author Posted July 9, 2023 I'm outdated too. Maybe that's why I like it. 1 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted July 9, 2023 Super User Posted July 9, 2023 Are the old and new lines the original Power Pro Spectra braid and not Maxcuatro or Super8slick? What pound test are they? 1 Quote
fin Posted July 9, 2023 Author Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Tennessee Boy said: Are the old and new lines the original Power Pro Spectra braid and not Maxcuatro or Super8slick? What pound test are they? Both Original Spectra. Never heard of or seen Maxcuatro til now. I've used Super8Slick and never cared for it. This is 10# test. Quote
garroyo130 Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 Was the "brand new PowerPro" actually new or broken in? I've found that once braid loses its waxy coating it takes in water and starts to kind of stick to the rod blank when wet which I can't imagine helps casting distance. 1 Quote
waymont Posted July 9, 2023 Posted July 9, 2023 22 hours ago, fin said: I pulled some old PowerPro off an old reel I hadn’t used since 2018. The ends had never been swapped, so the line inside the reel had never been used. I put the old line on a new spinning reel and now I’m casting 25-50% further than I was with brand new PowerPro. I noticed the old line was stiffer, more abrasive, wiry and hard when I put it on. New PowerPro seems to be softer and more pliable, it doesn’t cast as far and it frays more easily. At least that is my experience. Is it just me? I know they modify their product over time. I prefer the old stuff. Is there another brand that has the qualities of the old stuff? I don't think it's changed much over the years. Been using it forever, and never have any issues with it. I also love 832. Both great lines. 1 Quote
fin Posted July 9, 2023 Author Posted July 9, 2023 4 hours ago, garroyo130 said: Was the "brand new PowerPro" actually new or broken in? I've found that once braid loses its waxy coating it takes in water and starts to kind of stick to the rod blank when wet which I can't imagine helps casting distance. When I said "brand new", I meant relatively, like manufactured recently, not over 7 years ago. It is broken in, like a few months, so your point is valid, but don't think that would explain this much casting difference. If it did, I'd buy some of that "wax" ? Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted July 9, 2023 Super User Posted July 9, 2023 The wax is the worst part of power pro. Once it's off the color is gone and it actually casts better. I really don't think the casting issue has anything to do with your line. What's probably happening is it is so limp now that it starts to loop at the beginning of the cast. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 9, 2023 Super User Posted July 9, 2023 Fin, you nailed the description about right... original Fireline has similar attributes. 1 Quote
Super User Bird Posted July 10, 2023 Super User Posted July 10, 2023 @Justinfish agree. Been using original Power Pro since it's introduction and never had a reason to explore. 1 Quote
fin Posted July 10, 2023 Author Posted July 10, 2023 35 minutes ago, dodgeguy said: The wax is the worst part of power pro. Once it's off the color is gone and it actually casts better. I really don't think the casting issue has anything to do with your line. What's probably happening is it is so limp now that it starts to loop at the beginning of the cast. That might be true on a baitcaster, I guess. I don't hardly ever use them anymore. Spinning reels are about all I use these days. What works best on a baitcaster isn't necessarily the same for a spinner. "Limp" is a good adjective I could've used. The new stuff seems more limp to me. It gets limp faster. Suffix 832 seems more limp to me too. Quote
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