LunkerJunky Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 I recently just bought a new setup. Spooled up my reel with 17 lb. Seagaur Invizx. I have heard great things about Invizx and was eager to try it out because I love my Seagaur Blue Label line too. This is my first time spooling a bait caster with straight fluorocarbon and not braid to leader so I don't really know what it is supposed to look like. What I have noticed is the line has an absurd amount of memory for a brand new line. It tangles everywhere and falls off my spool. Is this normal for straight fluorocarbon or did I just get a bad batch of line from the factory? I peeled it off my spool gently and it is just forming big circles on the ground and knotting in itself. I haven't casted it yet to see if I will get a backlash because it is pouring rain in my area right now but I will have to see if it is normal or awful issue. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 23, 2023 Super User Posted June 23, 2023 Sounds like something zany is going on. Seaguar InvisX is on at least half my casting reels. Tatsu fills the rest. Never had a problem. Was the filler line spool flat or spinning round & round when you filled your reel ? Flat is not so good, postioned vertically and revolving is better. A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted June 23, 2023 Super User Posted June 23, 2023 Sounds like you either spooled it on wrong, or you’re just not used to/comfortable with fluorocarbon yet. Seventeen is a bit stiff to work with if it is your first go round with straight fluoro. Try casting it - may just take some time to get used to it coming from braid. Big difference in handling characteristics. 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted June 23, 2023 Global Moderator Posted June 23, 2023 Flouro takes some getting used to. I had a similar experience Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted June 23, 2023 Super User Posted June 23, 2023 Spray it with KVD line conditioner. I keep a bottle in the boat. 1 Quote
LunkerJunky Posted June 23, 2023 Author Posted June 23, 2023 52 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Sounds like something zany is going on. Seaguar InvisX is on at least half my casting reels. Tatsu fills the rest. Never had a problem. Was the filler line spool flat or spinning round & round when you filled your reel ? Flat is not so good, postioned vertically and revolving is better. A-Jay I had it spinning vertically. Listened to the tips as well where you set up spool to where you reel in line same way it comes off the filler spool. I don't know. I will do some casting and see if it is just a common thing I need to get used to or if I have a problem and need to buy new spool. But thank you regardless! 1 Quote
GReb Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 Others will disagree but I feel that Invisix is great up to 12lbs and not so great after. I prefer Sniper 14lb and up in the same price range. Unless you are on a tight budget, just buy Tatsu. It really is so good. 1 Quote
Tatulatard Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 Perfectly normal. I avoid anything over a 16 lb sniper for distance casting because of the poor manageability with faster spool settings. The heavier flouros I use are for more close in work with target casting. The exception is 20 lb big game which is the size of a 30 lb flouro with a bit better management and I use that to cast baits that weight multiple ounces with reels with stronger braking profiles to help tame the line. I find that a larger level wind and heavier braking profile like a t-wing SV reel really helps to manage heavier flouro especially without using line conditioner or spool tension. For your case with money already spent I would turn up the brakes and spool tension and give it a go. Also make sure you didn't spool it on backwards. If you did that's ok. Just wait a few weeks and the line will take the memory in was wound onto the pool. Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 No that's unusual, at least IME. Ive never had InvizX jump off the spool like that, but have complications when trying to get a few more days out of old 15lb Red Label in the winter. Quote
Cbump Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 By jump off the spool, does that mean you have It on a spinning reel? 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 23, 2023 Super User Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Cbump said: By jump off the spool, does that mean you have It on a spinning reel? ^^^^this^^^^ too big diameter for fresh water size spinning reels! Casting reel you over filled it. Tom 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 23, 2023 Super User Posted June 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Cbump said: By jump off the spool, does that mean you have It on a spinning reel? I was giving the benefit of the doubt that it was a casting reel. An over filled spool of 17 lb FC on spinner is probably a variety of curse words waiting to happen. A-Jay 3 Quote
Pogues2300 Posted June 23, 2023 Posted June 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, A-Jay said: I was giving the benefit of the doubt that it was a casting reel. An over filled spool of 17 lb FC on spinner is probably a variety of curse words waiting to happen. A-Jay Lol. I tried straight fluoro on a spinning reel once…. Once 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted June 23, 2023 Super User Posted June 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, A-Jay said: A spool of 17 lb FC on spinner is probably a variety of curse words waiting to happen. A spool of 17# mono or hybrid on a spinner yields the same results. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 23, 2023 Super User Posted June 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, Pogues2300 said: Lol. I tried straight fluoro on a spinning reel once…. Once Me too. A ton of very accomplished bassheads totally make it happen with FC on a spinner. Probably not 17 but either way. I tried it with 6 & 8 FC Total Fail for me. I think I must been holding my mouth wrong when I filled the spools. A-Jay 1 1 Quote
LunkerJunky Posted June 24, 2023 Author Posted June 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Cbump said: By jump off the spool, does that mean you have It on a spinning reel? No, it is on a baitcaster. It just gets loose and about 4 wraps worth hang off spool if there isn't any tension on other end of line. Well everyone, thank you for your help. I took the setup fishing today because rain cleared up. Had a bunch of really good casts. Caught fish on it, including a decent sized smallie to test its strength. Made maybe 100 casts and no backlashes all day. Casts far and effortlessly and almost outperforms my set ups with Shimanos. Regardless, the setup casted amazing for how looped the line was. The line became a little loose in the middle of the cast but the loose line dissipated and still casted far with no loose line afterward. Very pleased with the setup, just have to see how long the line lasts though before I have to re-spool it. 3 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted June 24, 2023 Super User Posted June 24, 2023 17 hours ago, LunkerJunky said: Very pleased with the setup, just have to see how long the line lasts though before I have to re-spool it. At least a couple years or more, unless you have a bad backlash or retie a ton and the spool gets too low - much better life than mono/copolys 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted June 24, 2023 Super User Posted June 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Team9nine said: much better life than mono/copolys Depends on the co-poly...I'm going on year 3 with the 12# YZH on my crank rig...still no issues....though I did reverse it this past winter. 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted June 24, 2023 Super User Posted June 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: Depends on the co-poly...I'm going on year 3 with the 12# YZH on my crank rig...still no issues....though I did reverse it this past winter. Never used YZH, but since its a fluoro hybrid, I could certainly see that. Its the mostly nylon based lines that have the inherent length of service issues, largely due to their high water absorption tendencies. 1 Quote
galyonj Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 18 hours ago, LunkerJunky said: The line became a little loose in the middle of the cast but the loose line dissipated and still casted far with no loose line afterward. What is your casting stroke like when that happens? Quote
Super User Catt Posted June 24, 2023 Super User Posted June 24, 2023 @LunkerJunky that's the exact reason I will never use fluorocarbon again. I keep being told i needed a better quality line, didn't matter, same results. Quote
waymont Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Catt said: @LunkerJunky that's the exact reason I will never use fluorocarbon again. I keep being told i needed a better quality line, didn't matter, same results. Same here. 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted June 26, 2023 Super User Posted June 26, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 11:10 PM, LunkerJunky said: No, it is on a baitcaster. It just gets loose and about 4 wraps worth hang off spool if there isn't any tension on other end of line. Well everyone, thank you for your help. I took the setup fishing today because rain cleared up. Had a bunch of really good casts. Caught fish on it, including a decent sized smallie to test its strength. Made maybe 100 casts and no backlashes all day. Casts far and effortlessly and almost outperforms my set ups with Shimanos. Regardless, the setup casted amazing for how looped the line was. The line became a little loose in the middle of the cast but the loose line dissipated and still casted far with no loose line afterward. Very pleased with the setup, just have to see how long the line lasts though before I have to re-spool it. That means more spool tension or thumb needed Quote
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