Lure colors and hues for green tinted treated water?

[TriStateBassin106]

A 10 acre pond I frequent has recently began treatment in the past month for its excessive weed problems, specifically with strains of Eurasian milfoil and hydrilla, before the treatment the water clarity was great but it probably had something to do with the weeds clearing it up, now that the weeds are being killed off the water clarity has reduced greatly and has taken a greenish tint, with maybe a ft and a half of visibility, I took a picture of it today.

 

What lure colors would you guys use in this green tinted water?, so far I've had mixed results with green and darker colors I used to use when the weeds where still there because the bass could see easier when hiding in the grass but I want other opinions, how do you guys fish green water? Natural colors or more vibrant/darker? Like Black n blue/white/chartreuse etc 

[rgasr63]

I experienced this several years ago. The pond owners did the same thing and the water turned twice once is was blue/green and then the water turned brown after that. Junebug worked ok during most of the process. Black and also white zoom trick worms worked during the brown phase. They killed the minnow population and the minnow spawn almost 2 years and most of the fish looked severely thin and unhealthy. 

[casts_by_fly]

black and blue.  That's the same clarity/color as the HAB lakes get around here and that's been a good choice for me.  Or, chartreuse and white.  Depends on the day for me.  Brighter days get charteruse and white, darker days and lower light get black and blue.

 

Also, good luck to you.  When the lakes get sprayed down here, it seems it puts the bass off for a couple weeks.  I swapped lakes on Tuesday when I got to the ramp and found out it had been sprayed recently.  They did it last year around this time so it shouldn't have been needed this time.

[galyonj]

11 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

black and blue.  That's the same clarity/color as the HAB lakes get around here and that's been a good choice for me.  Or, chartreuse and white.  Depends on the day for me.  Brighter days get charteruse and white, darker days and lower light get black and blue.

 

I fish a lot of dirty water. Not coincidentally, my bag is full of really dark and really light color plastics.

[mrpao]

It's never good when they spray for weeds.

What's happened is there is an algae bloom since the plants died.

More nutrients in the water to feed the algae.

They sprayed for weeds this spring in may local lake and it killed a bunch of shad and catfish. The DNR had to go around with 55 gallon drums netting up all the dead fish. They did that for about two whole weeks after the spraying. It looked horrible because there was dead fish floating around everywhere.

Needless to say, spraying for unwanted weeds is devastating to the environment and fishing.

[WRB]

We all have our own ideas about colors and that why bass lures come in the widest range imaginable.

Bass have no problem finding prey that closely match the cover / water color so it becomes a confidence choice.

I prefer dark purples or black with blue neon vain or highlights in off color water and at night.

Tom

[TriStateBassin106]

3 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

black and blue.  That's the same clarity/color as the HAB lakes get around here and that's been a good choice for me.  Or, chartreuse and white.  Depends on the day for me.  Brighter days get charteruse and white, darker days and lower light get black and blue.

 

Also, good luck to you.  When the lakes get sprayed down here, it seems it puts the bass off for a couple weeks.  I swapped lakes on Tuesday when I got to the ramp and found out it had been sprayed recently.  They did it last year around this time so it shouldn't have been needed this time.

To be fair, the fishing at this pond was downright impossible due to the matted grass, if you didn't have a topwater punching rig you were basically out of luck. I wouldn't have a problem if the grass was still around in some spots.

[Captain Phil]

Our lakes are that color most of the year.  Black/Blue, June Bug or all Black.

[TriStateBassin106]

Sign posted today at the waterbody in question, anyone know what type of pesticide that is they wrote? Also took some pics of the shallow end and you can see plenty of now dead grass visible along the shoreline. 

[Columbia Craw]

California 420 or similar

[galyonj]

Flumigard.

[casts_by_fly]

2 hours ago, TriStateBassin106 said:

Sign posted today at the waterbody in question, anyone know what type of pesticide that is they wrote? Also took some pics of the shallow end and you can see plenty of now dead grass visible along the shoreline. 

 

funny that the poster says pesticide since that is defined as animal based control.  It should say herbicide since that’s what fumigard is. It’s a non selective herbicide that will kill basically all of the types of aquatics vegetation around here (lists below). It’s one that they use around here too. It also kills the filamentous algae which is a nice benefit. It’s probably going to be tough going in that pond until the bass find a new routine. 
 

 

[TriStateBassin106]

19 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

funny that the poster says pesticide since that is defined as animal based control.  It should say herbicide since that’s what fumigard is. It’s a non selective herbicide that will kill basically all of the types of aquatics vegetation around here (lists below). It’s one that they use around here too. It also kills the filamentous algae which is a nice benefit. It’s probably going to be tough going in that pond until the bass find a new routine. 
 

 

Yes the fishing has definitely taken a hit at this spot in particular, it doesn't help anymore that they keep treating it every so often. But hopefully down the road it (the fishing) will benefit from it for everyone. I will miss the grass though even though it became a hassle towards the end. 

[scaleface]

That water color looks normal . Ill copy and paste from a previous post .

 

Waters here are always stained. I use bright colors until around spawn and then switch to more subdued hues because 99 per cent of the fishermen are chucking chartreuse/white lures.  Deep cranks I still go to chartreuses and whites a lot but experiment around. Texas rigs , purples are hard to beat .

[galyonj]

10 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

It’s a non selective herbicide that will kill basically all of the types of aquatics vegetation around here (lists below).

 

Yeah, that's like a nuclear bomb for aquatic flora.

[casts_by_fly]

38 minutes ago, scaleface said:

That water color looks normal . Ill copy and paste from a previous post .

 

Waters here are always stained. I use bright colors until around spawn and then switch to more subdued hues because 99 per cent of the fishermen are chucking chartreuse/white lures.  Deep cranks I still go to chartreuses and whites a lot but experiment around. Texas rigs , purples are hard to beat .

 

Maybe for you, but around here 4-10' clarity is the norm with plenty of weeds.  When they come in spraying like this is does exactly what tristate is seeing- the grass dies off and gets stringy, the algal bloom hits and clouds the water green like this, and the fish just shut down for a while.  They still eat if you put it on their nose, but consider them neutral to negative feeding for 2-4 weeks.  That's the situation you get.

[TriStateBassin106]

1 hour ago, scaleface said:

That water color looks normal . Ill copy and paste from a previous post .

 

Waters here are always stained. I use bright colors until around spawn and then switch to more subdued hues because 99 per cent of the fishermen are chucking chartreuse/white lures.  Deep cranks I still go to chartreuses and whites a lot but experiment around. Texas rigs , purples are hard to beat .

I went yesterday and caught a nice lil 2lber on a coppertruese TRD, but I agree with @casts_by_fly the fishing definitely shuts down when they treat it, it also doesn't help with the increase fishing pressure this place has recieved, so many teenagers trying to fish for catfish and throwing wacky rigs all around you can have a negative impact aswell. 

[galyonj]

Good job grinding that bass out of a spot like that, though.

[TriStateBassin106]

Just now, galyonj said:

Good job grinding that bass out of a spot like that, though.

Yeah it was the biggest of three fish, the rest were caught on chatterbaits below a lb which were caught over a former weed bed. Guess the fish can still be found in their old spots for now. 

[galyonj]

For sure. And they may still be in a mood over the combination of pressure and the herbicide. Fish don't like change (that isn't of their own volition) anymore than anybody else does.

[scaleface]

1 hour ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

Maybe for you, but around here 4-10' clarity is the norm with plenty of weeds.  When they come in spraying like this is does exactly what tristate is seeing- the grass dies off and gets stringy, the algal bloom hits and clouds the water green like this, and the fish just shut down for a while.  They still eat if you put it on their nose, but consider them neutral to negative feeding for 2-4 weeks.  That's the situation you get.

He was asking what colors to use . I answered what I used in that color of water.  

[TriStateBassin106]

Any fall tips for this place? Most of the grass is still gone and the water is still green and murky. Any good spinnerbait or crankbait color suggestions? 

 

Also where should I concentrate my fishing shallow or out deep? 

[king fisher]

Soft plastics- June Bug, or some other shade of purple.

Crankbaits - Chartreuse and black

Spinner baits - Black, Chartreuse, White, or some combination  these colors.

Jigs - Black and Blue.

Top water- White or Black.

 If the water clears up, I would try the same colors.

[TriStateBassin106]

1 hour ago, king fisher said:

Soft plastics- June Bug, or some other shade of purple.

Crankbaits - Chartreuse and black

Spinner baits - Black, Chartreuse, White, or some combination  these colors.

Jigs - Black and Blue.

Top water- White or Black.

 If the water clears up, I would try the same colors.

So this lake has a standard depth of 10ft all around one side of the lake is shallow which in return gradually gets deeper but the other side of it is a deep drop off about 10ft all around. With the water being dirty and it fall now should I focus my presentation on the deep side or shallow side? Will the fish suspend or hold tight to the bottom? 

[MIbassyaker]

A lot of places I fish get a big algae bloom in summer, and wind up with water like you are describing. For me, all green-stained low-visibility water cries out for some chartreuse - dark bottom baits with chartreuse highlights (like plastics with a chartreuse tail or claw), spinnerbaits with chart., white/chart, or blue/chart skirts usually produce well for me in this situation.

 

I would expect the bass to stay tight to cover or to the bottom, but possibly at any depth -- it depends on where the food is.  It sounds like the pond has a more gradual sloping side and a steeper side, is that what you're saying?  All else equal, the colder it gets, the better a steeper drop should fish  With vegetation gone, I wonder what dissolved oxygen levels are like -- is there a fountain? or an inlet?