Jonny15678 Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 I got two rods that have bent guides, was able to bend them back. What can I put on the guides to adhere to the rod any special glue? Quote
Super User Bankc Posted June 21, 2023 Super User Posted June 21, 2023 Which guides? Which rod? Did they come loose? They make a hot melt glue for tip guides. It's claim to fame is it's easy to undo, and holds well enough that it won't undo by accident. For the other guides, you'd probably want to use some warps and maybe an epoxy. It kind of depends on the rod and how the rest of the guides are assembled. If it's a beater rod that you're not too concerned about, I've used sewing thread and super glue. Just wrap the guide feet around the blank with the sewing thread and then cover it in super glue. Hot glue would also work. I have a rod I did that to a long time ago, and can say it can last at least 25 years. If it's a nicer rod, you might want something a little more specialized to the task. Quote
Jonny15678 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bankc said: Which guides? Which rod? Did they come loose? They make a hot melt glue for tip guides. It's claim to fame is it's easy to undo, and holds well enough that it won't undo by accident. For the other guides, you'd probably want to use some warps and maybe an epoxy. It kind of depends on the rod and how the rest of the guides are assembled. If it's a beater rod that you're not too concerned about, I've used sewing thread and super glue. Just wrap the guide feet around the blank with the sewing thread and then cover it in super glue. Hot glue would also work. I have a rod I did that to a long time ago, and can say it can last at least 25 years. If it's a nicer rod, you might want something a little more specialized to the task. Dobyns Sierra micro series casting rod. The second guide from the reel and then another one a few guides up. And I didn’t notice them loose but I do a lot of bank fishing and track through the woods so could have got banged on a tree or something. Quote
Jonny15678 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Posted June 21, 2023 45 minutes ago, Jonny15678 said: Dobyns Sierra micro series casting rod. The second guide from the reel and then another one a few guides up. And I didn’t notice them loose but I do a lot of bank fishing and track through the woods so could have got banged on a tree or something. This is the guide I was concerned about, so I could just get a 2 part epoxy and put a little dab on the top of the guide? Quote
Super User Bankc Posted June 21, 2023 Super User Posted June 21, 2023 That's a nice rod. What you trying to epoxy? Is just the insert loose? If it's the insert, then yeah, I'd probably just try some superglue and see what happens. 2 part epoxy is pretty permanent, so any mistakes can ruin the rod. Whereas superglue can still be removed with acetone. Worst case scenario, you have to replace the whole guide. And if you're talking about replacing the whole guide, I'd look for a professional to do that kind of work, myself. On a cheap rod, it wouldn't be worth the time or money, and I'd be tempted to give it a whack myself. But on decent rod like that, it probably would be. They usually use a special resin that can be removed with heat, so they remain repairable. You can buy that from most places that sell rod building equipment. And to do a good job requires some skills and probably some special tools. So a professional would likely run you about the same as gathering up all of the supplies to do it yourself. If the whole guide itself came loose, I'd probably opt for a professional. Though, I might be a little tempted to try it myself if it was just the epoxy around it that cracked and everything else looked good. Again, get the right resin made for that so it can be undone if you mess up. You might even be able to remelt it back into place without having to buy anything. I don't know. I don't do rod building, but there are a lot of guys on here, and a section dedicated to that. You might want to ask them in there for recommendations on epoxies and procedures. Most people who build rods also repair them. So you might even be able to find a hobbyist locally who can do the repairs. 2 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted June 21, 2023 Super User Posted June 21, 2023 Dobbins has a hassle free replacement policy you pay the fee you get a brand new rod 1 Quote
Jonny15678 Posted June 21, 2023 Author Posted June 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, Bankc said: That's a nice rod. What you trying to epoxy? Is just the insert loose? If it's the insert, then yeah, I'd probably just try some superglue and see what happens. 2 part epoxy is pretty permanent, so any mistakes can ruin the rod. Whereas superglue can still be removed with acetone. Worst case scenario, you have to replace the whole guide. And if you're talking about replacing the whole guide, I'd look for a professional to do that kind of work, myself. On a cheap rod, it wouldn't be worth the time or money, and I'd be tempted to give it a whack myself. But on decent rod like that, it probably would be. They usually use a special resin that can be removed with heat, so they remain repairable. You can buy that from most places that sell rod building equipment. And to do a good job requires some skills and probably some special tools. So a professional would likely run you about the same as gathering up all of the supplies to do it yourself. If the whole guide itself came loose, I'd probably opt for a professional. Though, I might be a little tempted to try it myself if it was just the epoxy around it that cracked and everything else looked good. Again, get the right resin made for that so it can be undone if you mess up. You might even be able to remelt it back into place without having to buy anything. I don't know. I don't do rod building, but there are a lot of guys on here, and a section dedicated to that. You might want to ask them in there for recommendations on epoxies and procedures. Most people who build rods also repair them. So you might even be able to find a hobbyist locally who can do the repairs. No the insert did not come out and nothing is loose, just the top part of the guide near the blank the epoxy separated from when it got bent, thanks for the help though. Quote
Chris Catignani Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 If the guide foot is loose under the wrap...then you can just glue it back with epoxy or super glue. ...or just give it a shot at re-wrapping it. Quote
Lead Head Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 If nothing is loose all you need to do is seal the cracked epoxy to prevent water intrusion. Personally, I would use a needle to apply a tiny amount of clear nail polish or super glue. All you want to do is seal it up, no need for epoxy. 1 Quote
Jonny15678 Posted June 22, 2023 Author Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Lead Head said: If nothing is loose all you need to do is seal the cracked epoxy to prevent water intrusion. Personally, I would use a needle to apply a tiny amount of clear nail polish or super glue. All you want to do is seal it up, no need for epoxy. Thank you. Quote
Cbump Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 15 hours ago, dodgeguy said: Dobbins has a hassle free replacement policy you pay the fee you get a brand new rod $50ish bucks plus $30 shipping for a guide that bent. ? Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted June 22, 2023 Super User Posted June 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Cbump said: $50ish bucks plus $30 shipping for a guide that bent. ? that could snap off depending how bad it was bent Quote
Cbump Posted June 22, 2023 Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, dodgeguy said: that could snap off depending how bad it was bent Does a new guide cost $80? Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted June 22, 2023 Super User Posted June 22, 2023 No but your getting a brand new rod. Not a repaired one. Just my preference . Quote
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