Heavy worm/jig rod

[LrgmouthShad]

Hey y’all,

 

Looking for a rod for heavy Texas rigs/jigs. Mainly because I want to have two rods available for this, one with a heavy t-rig, and one with a jig. I want the rod to cast 3/8oz to 1oz well. I probably won’t purchase this rod for a couple months 
 

Looking at

Falcon Expert Table Rock (is this a fast?)

Daiwa Tatula 7’1 HF

Dobyns Sierra Micro 7’ HF

 

Kinda gives you an idea of my price range. Of course I could just double up on iRod 704Cs, but for some reason that didn’t seem wise to me. 
 

Open to suggestions

 

[r83srock]

I don’t know anything about the three rods you listed, sorry. I like a St. Croix Victory 7’3” HXF for what you listed. Weights up to 3/4oz. I fish jigs in milfoil a lot.

[dodgeguy]

I would get the Dobyns but one power higher.their heavy is really a mh. Unless of course that's what your looking for.

[LrgmouthShad]

12 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Unless of course that's what your looking for.

If it can handle 3/8 to 1 oz well and can punch a heavy jig hook through, I don’t care if it’s like a MH. But if something closer to a H is more appropriate, then I’d go with that

18 minutes ago, r83srock said:

I don’t know anything about the three rods you listed, sorry. I like a St. Croix Victory 7’3” HXF for what you listed. Weights up to 3/4oz. I fish jigs in milfoil a lot.

Nice looking rod, thanks

[Cbump]

Falcon says the table rock is for buzzbaits and crankbaits. I’d look at the Expert Amistad 7’3” (best Falcon choice) or the Bayou 6’11” if the Amistad is too long. 
The Bayou is a frog rod but I use mine like a heavier head Turner also. Great bottom contact rod. 
 

 

[casts_by_fly]

3 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

Hey y’all,

 

Looking for a rod for heavy Texas rigs/jigs. Mainly because I want to have two rods available for this, one with a heavy t-rig, and one with a jig. I want the rod to cast 3/8oz to 1oz well. I probably won’t purchase this rod for a couple months 
 

Falcon Expert Table Rock (is this a fast?)

 

Kinda gives you an idea of my price range. Of course I could just double up on iRod 704Cs, but for some reason that didn’t seem wise to me. 
 

Open to suggestions

 

 

 

Yeah don't do that.  The table rock is a moderate action. I don't know why they did that in the expert series when all of the other 7' 6 power rods in all of the other series are fast action.  The table rock is a damp noodle in comparison.  I have one in the basement thinking it was the Expert version of the Bucoo I already had (didn't read the labels) and was sorely disappointed.  Now, if someone likes a moderate action for chatterbaits then this is what I'd suggest over fiberglass/composite rods.

 

Are you fishing braid or mono/fluoro and how heavy of cover?  Also, you're saying cast.  That's telling me more casting and working than pitching to cover?

 

On the basis of casting jigs, the 7'4" heavy cover jig is a great rod.  I have the Cara series (6-power H/F 1/2 -1 oz), I think it comes in the lowrider also.  Mine has 17 lb mono on it and that's a good combination for it.  I use it for pitching jigs, casting bigger swim jigs, throwing a 6" soft swim bait and even bigger buzzbaits.  Most of those are secondary though as I have a jig or t-rig tied on it most of the time.  This rod was designed for dragging jigs though deep brush piles.

 

The other is the Amistad.  7'3" 7-power 3/8-2 oz H/F in the expert series (which I have).  I use mine for a pitching stick with 50 lb braid and 3/8 and up weight plus plastic.  I think it fishes best (pitching) with 1/2 plus plastic in this setup.  Its got a lot of backbone but isn't a pool cue.  In addition to pitching plastics I use it early season for A-rigs and big spinnerbaits (though those are moving to the eye crosser now) and throughout the year for really big keitechs (like a 6.8 plus 3/8 weight).

 

CBump mentioned the eyecrosser/bayou.  I have the Eye crosser and like he said its a heavier head turner.  The power of the amistad in a head turner package.  Great rod overall if you are target casting bigger baits.  Mine is my frog rod primarily but I also use it for 3/4 oz spinnerbaits/chatterbaits, it fishes a 1 oz soft swimbait well, and is great for close quarters pitching.  I think you have a head turner, so picture that but a full rod rating heavier.  

 

[LrgmouthShad]

35 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

Are you fishing braid or mono/fluoro and how heavy of cover?  Also, you're saying cast.  That's telling me more casting and working than pitching to cover?

Heavy fluoro or mono. Thick cover, sometimes working through both timber and thick hydrilla in one cast or pitch. I want the rod to be able to both pitch and cast well. 

[dodgeguy]

3 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

it can handle 3/8 to 1 oz well and can punch a heavy jig hook through, I don’t care if it’s like a MH. But if something closer to a H is more appropriate, then I’d go with that

then id go next power up to ssm 735c 

[casts_by_fly]

34 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

Heavy fluoro or mono. Thick cover, sometimes working through both timber and thick hydrilla in one cast or pitch. I want the rod to be able to both pitch and cast well. 

 

Then the amistad is what you want.  I have the expert and its a great rod.  I understand the Cara is also fantastic with a touch lighter tip but I haven't handled it.

[LrgmouthShad]

2 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

Then the amistad is what you want.  I have the expert and its a great rod.  I understand the Cara is also fantastic with a touch lighter tip but I haven't handled it.

Awesome thank you for your help.

 

I want to say that I’ve seen one of these at Bass Pro before so I’ll look to see if I can handle one and see how I like it

[casts_by_fly]

The head turner and the Amistad are two of falcon's most popular rods.  They have them in all of their main rod series.  They are both very versatile rods while also being really good at one particular thing.  For me, the HT is a great rod for bladed jigs and spinnerbaits in the 3/8-1/2 range, but it also does a lot of other things well.  Yesterday alone I fished mine with a chatterbait, a walking bait, a popper, and a weightless senko.  Today it will have a soft jerkbait on it before I get to the water and who knows after.  It was originally designed as a short range pitching rod and its great for that with pitching jigs and swim jigs.  Its probably the best skipping rod I have.  The amistad is a different rod but still super versatile for all the things I mentioned above.  No surprise that you might see those two in a store that carries a decent selection of Falcon rods.  Also, while I haven't felt the other lines of the amistad, I have compared other rods across falcon's series and they tend to be very similar across series.  The pitching stick/head turner has the same overall feel, but when you go up a series it gets lighter, crisper, and more sensitive.  if you can feel a lowrider amistad or a bucoo SR then the expert won't be too far off.

 

Or you could just buy it and be done with it...

[LrgmouthShad]

4 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

Or you could just buy it and be done with it...

A wise man once told me *cough* Catt *cough* that when you can handle a rod prior to purchasing, it’s a good idea to do that. Can feel different reels on it too

[WRB]

5 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

Hey y’all,

 

Looking for a rod for heavy Texas rigs/jigs. Mainly because I want to have two rods available for this, one with a heavy t-rig, and one with a jig. I want the rod to cast 3/8oz to 1oz well. I probably won’t purchase this rod for a couple months 
 

Looking at

Falcon Expert Table Rock (is this a fast?)

Daiwa Tatula 7’1 HF

Dobyns Sierra Micro 7’ HF

 

Kinda gives you an idea of my price range. Of course I could just double up on iRod 704Cs, but for some reason that didn’t seem wise to me. 
 

Open to suggestions

 

Daiwa Tatula 7’1” HF on your list looks good; 1/4-1 1/2 oz w/ cork handle @ $159. Haven’t handles this rod and may be a little stiff for a worm rod. 

Daiwa Tatula Elite 7’4” MHF, 1/4-1 3/8 oz maybe more versatile for both jigs and worms@ $180.

 

Tom