I went from power fishing to just about 100% finessee

[Swamp Girl]

1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

The perfect rod for you:  7'2" Rip-N-Chatter, Heavy, Moderate 

https://stcroixrods.com/products/legend-tournament-bass-2022-new-models

 

Can you suggest one at half the price of ^this^ one?

 

42 minutes ago, WRB said:

Gary Yamamoto always used spinning tackle or his power and finesse fishing, use what works.

 

Okay, I won't feel like such a fool anymore.

 

FWIW, WRB, you are a warehouse of bass knowledge. 

[MN Fisher]

16 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

Can you suggest one at half the price of ^this^ one?

Well, not 1/2 - but the Victory line also has a 'Rip-n-Chatter' 7'2" H/M for $200

 

[WRB]

25 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Well, not 1/2 - but the Victory line also has a 'Rip-n-Chatter' 7'2" H/M for $200

 

15% off at ALF.

Tom

[FishTank]

Finnese fishing to me doesn't always mean little baits but more in how you present it and how fast you fish. For instance, the guy that one our tournament last week fished a Zoom OlMonster and drug it across the bottom slowly. A single cast might last 5+ minutes for him and he would cast to the same spots 5 or 6 times before moving on. 

 

For me, I do find myself down sizing to smaller baits more often and fishing slower.  It seems like most of the fish I have caught in tournaments this year have been brought in this way. 

[Swamp Girl]

3 minutes ago, WRB said:

15% off at ALF.

Tom

 

What is ALF? I googled it and came up with several possibilities. 

[waymont]

51 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

Can you suggest one at half the price of ^this^ one?

 

I have the Victory version of this rod, and it's a fantastic rod. I use it for chatterbaits, whopper ploppers, and 5/8oz wake baits. It can also be good for bigger square bills too.

Great easy to fish rod.

[Team9nine]

11 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

 

What is ALF? I googled it and came up with several possibilities. 

“Alien Life Form” that starred in several sitcoms 

 

[Swamp Girl]

8 minutes ago, waymont said:

I have the Victory version of this rod, and it's a fantastic rod. I use it for chatterbaits, whopper ploppers, and 5/8oz wake baits. It can also be good for bigger square bills too.

Great easy to fish rod.

 

I'm ready to buy it. I just need to know what ALF is. I know, I know, Team9Nine already told me. ?

[Mike L]

I’m sure he means American Legacy Fishing

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

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On 6/20/2023 at 5:48 AM, LrgmouthShad said:

Sure, might be be reasonable for tournament fisherman but I don’t fish tournaments and many of us don’t

 

Why do I need to set a self-prescribed rule that I need to get an arbitrary amount of fish before I start fishing a certain technique? Lol

 

I probably couldn’t do tournaments. I’d be too hard-headed

I’d rather have 5 big bites all day than to get an early limit of baby fish that I have to upgrade anyway. A Limit of 2 pounders will win no tournaments around here. 

[waymont]

48 minutes ago, ol'crickety said:

 

I'm ready to buy it. I just need to know what ALF is. I know, I know, Team9Nine already told me. ?

American Legacy Fishing

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1 hour ago, ol'crickety said:

Can you suggest one at half the price of ^this^ one?

Dobyns Maverick 734c 

[LrgmouthShad]

Two finesse techniques that I think have a better propensity to produce bigger bites, and can also be altered to center around heavier gear, are the shaky head and the neko rig. Circle hooks on neko are small and you can use light line but they are also reasonably strong and are open-hook for good hookup ratio. You could put a big worm on a neko rig with lighter line and a small circle hook, and the setup would work

[FishTax]

Shaky Head is my #1 confidence lure, and I'd say over half my time on the water is tossing that around. I rarely 'power fish', when I have in the past I haven't had good luck. 

[Pogues2300]

I think my aversion to finesse is sorta like when the gps says I’ll get to a destination two minutes earlier if I use the highway in gridlock and I choose to take backroads where I keep moving. You aren’t wrong for going the faster route maybe flaws in me that choose the other path.

[Bankbeater]

This time of year I'll probably be fishing with a big topwater bait or pitching a jig early in the morning, but when the sun gets up high enough I will be switching over to spinning gear.

[JediAmoeba]

I fish a lot of big baits - gliders and large soft plastic swimbaits like hudds and I consider it finesse fishing. I am usually fishing it methodically and painfully slow to get the biggest fish to bite.  I have spinning rods but almost never use them. 

 

Fishing a club tournament tomorrow as a co and I will have 6 rods - 1 xh swimbait rod, 2 heavy( a 3/4 oz jig and an 8" trashfish), 2 MH (a scrounger head and a Texas rigged 10" worm), and last a ML to fish a yellow magic the first hour or so... I don't consider any of it true power fishing.

[bp_fowler]

To me it’s not an either or proposition.  They are complementary not competing styles.   
 

Just like a major league pitcher, even if you have a 100mph fastball you still need a change up.

[Obi_Wan]

On 6/21/2023 at 10:38 AM, FishTank said:

Finnese fishing to me doesn't always mean little baits but more in how you present it and how fast you fish. For instance, the guy that one our tournament last week fished a Zoom OlMonster and drug it across the bottom slowly. A single cast might last 5+ minutes for him and he would cast to the same spots 5 or 6 times before moving on. 

 

For me, I do find myself down sizing to smaller baits more often and fishing slower.  It seems like most of the fish I have caught in tournaments this year have been brought in this way. 

Good answer.

 

Its akin to traditional bowhunting.  Purists say a trad bow has no sights.  Realists say they can have traditional sights that would have been on a 1950s bow or no sights.  Progressives would say heck yes they can have any sight you want and add wheels too.

 

What most think of finesse today is small baits on small, light weight heads.  That being said, bigger baits can be fished with finesse.  Its all in your definition of it.

 

I like to think of Ned rigs (small baits on light heads), finesse baits (slightly larger worms, small jigs, etc..), and all others.  But thats just so I can game plan in my own head.  Doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with my definition.

[WRB]

On 6/21/2023 at 8:41 AM, ol'crickety said:

 

What is ALF? I googled it and came up with several possibilities. 

American—Legacy--Fishing, not a sponsored BR site so I use ALF.

[Swamp Girl]

1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said:

I fish a lot of big baits - gliders and large soft plastic swimbaits like hudds and I consider it finesse fishing. I am usually fishing it methodically and painfully slow to get the biggest fish to bite.  I have spinning rods but almost never use them. 

 

Fishing a club tournament tomorrow as a co and I will have 6 rods - 1 xh swimbait rod, 2 heavy( a 3/4 oz jig and an 8" trashfish), 2 MH (a scrounger head and a Texas rigged 10" worm), and last a ML to fish a yellow magic the first hour or so... I don't consider any of it true power fishing.

 

What brand of 10" worm? And do you weight it?

[WRB]

1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said:

I fish a lot of big baits - gliders and large soft plastic swimbaits like hudds and I consider it finesse fishing. I am usually fishing it methodically and painfully slow to get the biggest fish to bite.  I have spinning rods but almost never use them. 

 

Fishing a club tournament tomorrow as a co and I will have 6 rods - 1 xh swimbait rod, 2 heavy( a 3/4 oz jig and an 8" trashfish), 2 MH (a scrounger head and a Texas rigged 10" worm), and last a ML to fish a yellow magic the first hour or so... I don't consider any of it true power fishing.

Finesse fishing like most bass terms can’t be defined by Webster. Micheal Jones coined the term “finesse” to describe Dick Trask and Don Iovino’s technique using light line* and small soft plastics. Dick was a expert with split shot and dart jigs using 4 1/2” Flutter Craft worms. Don earned the nick name Father of Finesse Fishing using 4” to 5” worms doddling (shaking)  Brass n Glass rigged on light line on his modified 2500C and custom Phenix rods.

Tom

*5 lb Maxima UG 

[TOXIC]

There are finesse technique and finesse baits. 

[galyonj]

1 hour ago, Obi_Wan said:

 Doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with my definition.

 

Fwiw, that's pretty much exactly my definition. I give @TnRiver46 a hard time about fishing a Ned rig, because any small plastic on a light jighead counts as a Ned rig for me.

 

Makes packing easier. 

[JediAmoeba]

1 hour ago, ol'crickety said:

 

What brand of 10" worm? And do you weight it?

Tomorrow the old rage thumper! Sometimes I use a Zoom monster but I have an abundance of Thumpers so going with those!

54 minutes ago, TOXIC said:

There are finesse technique and finesse baits. 

This is an accurate assessment. 

1 hour ago, WRB said:

Finesse fishing like most bass terms can’t be defined by Webster. Micheal Jones coined the term “finesse” to describe Dick Trask and Don Iovino’s technique using light line* and small soft plastics. Dick was a expert with split shot and dart jigs using 4 1/2” Flutter Craft worms. Don earned the nick name Father of Finesse Fishing using 4” to 5” worms doddling (shaking)  Brass n Glass rigged on light line on his modified 2500C and custom Phenix rods.

Tom

*5 lb Maxima UG 

Which is why I think it is weird when people say they are fishing BFS and have 10# fluoro on...I am usually using 10# braid to 5# sniper on BFS.