throttleplate Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 I took this info from target walleye website, found it to be interesting and you may also. Looks like the majority of those are Berkley Gulp! Minnows, which btw are 100% biodegradable and don’t sit on the bottom of our lakes for hundreds of years like ‘normal’ plastics do. And obviously fish love the taste of ‘em enough they’ll literally eat them. ? Why? Well, here’s a snippet from Fishing Fishing Hall of Famer John Prochnow, the guy who created Gulp! ? among a zillion other scent-y treats over his past 37 yrs as a renowned chemist, inventor and lure designer with Pure Fishing: > “Gulp! is made of a water-based polymer, unlike many other soft-plastics that are oil-based PVC. That allows us to use a wider variety of smells, because our attractant is also water based, and oil and water don’t mix. Naturally, fish can smell water-soluble liquids better than anything else, and the material allows the baits to hold and release much more scent.” > Because oil and water do not mix, when scent is added to a bait created from PVC and an oil-based resin, the oil literally traps the scent inside the bait. While some of the scent does get out, the oil is actually functioning as a barrier. I love this analogy from John: > “I liken Gulp! and other scented plastics to eating lunch on a fishing trip. You have a ham and cheese sandwich in a plastic bag. You take it out and eat it and it’s good. Now, if you were to bite it through the bag, all the ingredients would be the same, but you’re going to taste the bag, too.” Dude can cook up some fish-catchers! ?? 3 Quote
fin Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 So they cut open a walleye and found a bunch of Gulp Minnows in it? Why would a fish have that much plastic (or water-based polymer) in it? Where are the hooks? 1 2 Quote
throttleplate Posted May 21, 2023 Author Posted May 21, 2023 I wish they would make a gulp with a paddletail. Gulps as they are tear very easy. If ya nose hook a gulp on a jig it can get sucked off pretty easy by a fish. i 1 Quote
Super User AlabamaSpothunter Posted May 21, 2023 Super User Posted May 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, fin said: So they cut open a walleye and found a bunch of Gulp Minnows in it? Why would a fish have that much plastic (or water-based polymer) in it? Where are the hooks? This is much bigger problem than I think we really understand. It's hard to calculate the immense fishing pressures on some of these fisheries when we're only out there when we fish. Ed the Diver is a guy's name IIrc, and he dives popular fishing lakes, it's nothing short of incredible the amount of snagged lures he recovers. Lots of times a fish straight up steals your bait and ingests it right there and then, other times your plastic gets thrown during a fight and at some future point the bait appeared alive enough due to current most likely that fish eat it. I've heard of sick or dead Bass having non-biodegradable plastics caught in their GI tracks. Senkos are likely the worst offender. I get about a fish per Senko, and they are thrown off during the fight most times. 4 Quote
Super User gim Posted May 21, 2023 Super User Posted May 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, throttleplate said: I wish they would make a gulp with a paddletail. Gulps as they are tear very easy. If ya nose hook a gulp on a jig it can get sucked off pretty easy by a fish. I use the gulp alive crappie/fathead minnows in the spring for panfishing and they work pretty good when the fish are feeding relatively aggressively. The durability is not good though, as you’ve stated. Sometimes they panfish will grab the end of it and pull it right off the hook. 1 Quote
Mbirdsley Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 2 hours ago, fin said: So they cut open a walleye and found a bunch of Gulp Minnows in it? Why would a fish have that much plastic (or water-based polymer) in it? Where are the hooks? Walleye especially and really any fish really are notorious for just nipping the tail on a plastic split tail or other plastic . If the plastic gets beat up enough. they can suck it right off the hook Lake trout are notorious for slurping wacky rigged stick worms off the bottom. That had fallen off the hook 1 Quote
fin Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 1 hour ago, AlabamaSpothunter said: This is much bigger problem than I think we really understand. It's hard to calculate the immense fishing pressures on some of these fisheries when we're only out there when we fish. Ed the Diver is a guy's name IIrc, and he dives popular fishing lakes, it's nothing short of incredible the amount of snagged lures he recovers. Lots of times a fish straight up steals your bait and ingests it right there and then, other times your plastic gets thrown during a fight and at some future point the bait appeared alive enough due to current most likely that fish eat it. I think I've seen one of those videos posted here, and yeah, it is incredible. And I've caught fish that have stolen my bait just minutes before, and they still have it in their gullet. I'm aware of that stuff, and I'm still a little skeptical that one fish could accumulate that much. I'm guessing those are lost baits - not necessarily stolen baits. I guess the point of the article is that the scent is so good that fish are eating lost baits based on scent alone - not on action/movement. I'm not sure that's such a good point environmentally for Berkley. I can't imagine those baits in that fish degrading before causing a digestion problem. Maybe that fish was caught by Jacob Runyan and Chase Cominsky. ? 1 1 Quote
Super User AlabamaSpothunter Posted May 22, 2023 Super User Posted May 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, fin said: I think I've seen one of those videos posted here, and yeah, it is incredible. And I've caught fish that have stolen my bait just minutes before, and they still have it in their gullet. I'm aware of that stuff, and I'm still a little skeptical that one fish could accumulate that much. I'm guessing those are lost baits - not necessarily stolen baits. I guess the point of the article is that the scent is so good that fish are eating lost baits based on scent alone - not on action/movement. I'm not sure that's such a good point environmentally for Berkley. I can't imagine those baits in that fish degrading before causing a digestion problem. Maybe that fish was caught by Jacob Runyan and Chase Cominsky. ? Lol, first thought when I saw the pic earlier today....."Wallhead cheaters" ? Quote
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