Braid to fluorocarbon leader

[Dwight Hottle]

I use uni to uni for braid to leader all the time without connecting knot failures. But I don't use flouro just plain mono like big game or copoly like Advance or Defier Armilo. Lube it well & cinch it up slowly. The best lube is plain old chapstick or lip balm.  

[Jig Man]

I’ve been doing most everything recommended with a couple of exceptions;  straight braid—-last time I tried that I go a severe butt whoopin,  straight fluorocarbon—-anything more than 8# is a nightmare on spinning reels.

 

 I just upped my leader from 10 to 12.  I’ll see how that works tomorrow.

[Texas Flood]

IF I feel the need for a leader, I just do a simple Uni knot. 

[Darth-Baiter]

“Hey Doctor, it hurt when I do this”

 

”well stop doing it then!”

 

is not an answer to this question. Haha. 

[CountryboyinDC]

9 hours ago, Choporoz said:

15 Gliss

I didn't think anybody used that anymore.  From what I heard, if you use Gliss, you won't have to worry about what knots you use because the line itself will break if it gets within 10 yards of anything sharper than a croquet ball.

[Choporoz]

26 minutes ago, CountryboyinDC said:

I didn't think anybody used that anymore.  From what I heard, if you use Gliss, you won't have to worry about what knots you use because the line itself will break if it gets within 10 yards of anything sharper than a croquet ball.

I still use it.  Usually with a leader.  I tried it in Ontario and it was a disaster there.  They got a lot sharper rocks than we do in VA/NC.  I can cast a senko about 650 yards with 18# Gliss...lol....thin and sensitive...not the most abrasion resistant, but I do skip docks with it.  I have a couple spinning reels that are going on 3rd or 4th year of same spool of Gliss.

[dodgeguy]

3 hours ago, Junk Fisherman said:

 14 lb YGK Sol gives me 20% better casting distance than 7 lb Gamma Touch (this is the best casting straight fluoro I have used).  That is quite significant when throwing light swimbaits and Ned rigs.  Now factor in the sensitivity of braid over fluoro and there's not much of a comparison.  

I'm a slack line Flora is more sensitive than braid

[optimator]

On 5/17/2023 at 4:50 AM, michaelb said:

On lighter lines like this, try the lefty kreh leader knot. Very easy to tie, something you can do on the boat if you break off. I use the FG knot for heavier flouro (40-50 lb).

 

 

I've used that knot with no problems for a couple of years. I think it was @BrianMDTX that posted it up here previously. 

[BrianMDTX]

7 hours ago, optimator said:

I've used that knot with no problems for a couple of years. I think it was @BrianMDTX that posted it up here previously. 

It’s all I use. So simple to tie and very strong. I’ve used it on 20 to 50 lb. braid and 6 to 14 lb. mono. 

[Dan N]

Double uni, beyond my first couple attempts, probably screwing it up, I’ve never had an issue. I use Mono leader, never seen the advantage of floro . When I break off it’s almost always at the knot at the bait or hook. It’s a solid knot, been around forever. Works great for me.

[shackman]

When I do use a leader, I just tie a surgeons loop. Tie it in about 30 seconds, Wrap 4-5 times and it’s good to go and it’s a small knot 

[ATA]

On 5/16/2023 at 3:13 PM, Jig Man said:

Recently I posted about the topic and was going to use uni to uni with 15# braid to 10# fluorocarbon.  I did.  It was a disaster.  Some of you touted the Alberto knot which I used to tie.  After the uni to uni debacle I decided to go with it.  So I have been tying it.  It too is breaking at the knot.  That is a problem when I am a guest and can’t have backup setups in the rod locker.

 

Any tricks or tips on how to keep it from breaking at the knot?

I always always use FG knot for all bass fishing setups and it never failed me. I do prepare my combos the night before and if something happens on water and I cant do perfect FG I always did improve Albright knot which didn't failed me yet also.

[TnRiver46]

On 5/17/2023 at 1:54 PM, Darth-Baiter said:

“Hey Doctor, it hurt when I do this”

 

”well stop doing it then!”

 

is not an answer to this question. Haha. 

Walk into a doc with bad knees and tell him you run 5 miles every morning. Then report back to BR and tell us what he/she said 

 

then walk into a different doctor and tell them it hurts when you crash your motorcycle and see what he/she says 

[Darth-Baiter]

6 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Walk into a doc with bad knees and tell him you run 5 miles every morning. Then report back to BR and tell us what he/she said 

 

then walk into a different doctor and tell them it hurts when you crash your motorcycle and see what he/she says 

sorry you missed my bad joke.  it was a riff off a blond joke.

 

your examples are kinda literal.  like a doctor telling us to stop smoking, cuz we have a tumor in the lungs.  the connector knot isnt bad for us. 

[TnRiver46]

Just now, Darth-Baiter said:

sorry you missed my bad joke.  it was a riff off a blond joke.

 

your examples are kinda literal.  like a doctor telling us to stop smoking, cuz we have a tumor in the lungs.  

Or like……I use a leader and it keeps breaking 

[Darth-Baiter]

Just now, TnRiver46 said:

Or like……I use a leader and it keeps breaking 

hahhaha...really?  or you making a point

either way..touche.

 

my leaders dont break off.

[Skunkmaster-k]

Aaron Martens made a video years ago talking about how he tied the uni to uni. He said people don’t use enough wraps. For 6# fluorocarbon to 8# braid  he wrapped the braid 14 times and the fluorocarbon 5 times, I think that’s what it was. I like to go 14 and 7. Works good. 

[ska4fun]

On 5/16/2023 at 7:13 PM, Jig Man said:

Recently I posted about the topic and was going to use uni to uni with 15# braid to 10# fluorocarbon.  I did.  It was a disaster.  Some of you touted the Alberto knot which I used to tie.  After the uni to uni debacle I decided to go with it.  So I have been tying it.  It too is breaking at the knot.  That is a problem when I am a guest and can’t have backup setups in the rod locker.

 

Any tricks or tips on how to keep it from breaking at the knot?

Lub the knot.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

The best way to keep a knot from breaking to tie it correctly, as both of those knots are proven.

I suspect that you are either using too many or too few turns, not using enough lubrication and or failing to seat the knot correctly.  With the Alberto, the braid needs to exit the same side of the loop it entered on.  

 

Is the knot pulling out or is the line breaking, and if so where?

 

[Ryan Smith]

On 5/16/2023 at 6:13 PM, Jig Man said:

Recently I posted about the topic and was going to use uni to uni with 15# braid to 10# fluorocarbon.  I did.  It was a disaster.  Some of you touted the Alberto knot which I used to tie.  After the uni to uni debacle I decided to go with it.  So I have been tying it.  It too is breaking at the knot.  That is a problem when I am a guest and can’t have backup setups in the rod locker.

 

Any tricks or tips on how to keep it from breaking at the knot?

If you are breaking at the knot you need to tie a longer leader for shock absorption. I tie a 20lb fc100 shock leader or 20lb Gama flouro. I run a long leader that goes through my guides but not into reel. And back off your drag a little so you get some slippage and you will be fine 

On 5/17/2023 at 8:04 AM, MickD said:

Finish the Alberto with two overhand knots of the braid tag end.  That prevents any slip of the knot if you have very slippery line or have gone out the wrong way with the braid tag end.  Be sure to wet the knot as you set it, and set it very tightly.  

 

If this does not work I would suggest changing to another leader - might be bad stuff especially if you're using old line for a leader.  I use premium fly tippet for my leaders.  

This 👍 run your tag through the end of the Albright 2x and tie 2 overhand knots for any slipping and this will not fail if tied correctly and you don’t burn the flourocarbon leader cinching down the knot. 

[Maggiesmaster]

I use the Shin knot for braid to leader connections; tighten smoothly & snugly with plenty of lube (spit!) and it won’t slip.  At least not yet.

     Glenn, you don’t use a leader with your braid. Do you use yellow braid? I do, and don’t see how you can use yellow without a flouro or mono leader.