Cbump Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 Just ordered a Lew’s P/F reel that I’m going to spool up with 25lb fluoro. I want a super strong, sensitive rod that’s still lightweight to put It on. I like the specs of the Dobyns Champion XP 766Flip a lot. 7’6”, rated to 2.5 oz, and I have other Champions so I know they are not broomsticks. Before I buy that one, wanted to see what else is out there with similar specs. 7’6” to 7’9” max. Rated for over 2 oz. Anything I should look at? Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted May 13, 2023 Super User Posted May 13, 2023 Ark Invoker Pro 7'6" XH F. Rated 1/2-2. It's a bit stouter rod than my Sierra 766, and has a faster taper. It has just enough tip to pitch 1/2 + trailer well, and is absolutely up to punching duty. It's significantly more sensitive than the Sierra too. 1 Quote
Captain Phil Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 Take a look at the Shimano Zodias ZDC72MH-GA. Weight is an important consideration in a flipping pitching rod as you will be holding it for long periods of time. These rods are as sensitive as they come. 1 Quote
Cbump Posted May 13, 2023 Author Posted May 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Captain Phil said: Shimano Zodias ZDC72MH-GA I don’t think that Rod is rated for over 2oz or long enough. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 13, 2023 Global Moderator Posted May 13, 2023 There so many choices that it’ll give you a headache. Just do a search on here and you’ll see what I mean. If you’re looking for a mass produced rod, Almost every major manufacturer has one in thier lineup that’ll fit your needs. Personally speaking a rod of that length really isn’t that necessary to be effective. A 7’6” and up will increase your leverage sure and give you an extra few feet in distance but I do just fine with a 7’2” or 3” and can hit spots with ease. The Dobyns you mentioned are good rods on the mid to high end but so is the Ark @T-Billy mentioned on the lower end cost wise, and the Zodias @Captain Philsaid but in the spec you’re interested in. I use a 15 yr old Smoke so I really can’t speak of the new rods available. Just wanted to give an open ended opinion Mike 3 Quote
Cbump Posted May 13, 2023 Author Posted May 13, 2023 I’m actually not seeing many at all in the specs I’m looking for. That’s why I was looking for the help on here. I currently have a 6’8” pitching rod rated to an ounce, a 6’11” pitching rod rated to 2 ounces, multiple 7’ pitching rods rated to an ounce, a 7’2” pitching rod rated to 1.2 ounces, and a 7’4” pitching rod rated to 2 ounces. That’s why I’m looking for a 7’6”-7’9” pitching/flipping rod rated to 2.5 ounces. Dobyns is the only one I see so far. Quote
AmmoGuy Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 Idk. These days I do all my pitching work (jigs and creatures) with a couple of Tatula 7’1” H/F “jig” rods. Ive kind of put aside all my rods over 7’3”. I don’t get an tangible benefits, and they make me slightly less accurate sometimes. (if I actually flipped at all, I’d keep a long rod in the boat for that) 2 Quote
AmmoGuy Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 39 minutes ago, Cbump said: Any 7 to 7’3” rods rated for 2.5oz? No idea. The 7’4” Tatula “frog” rod is rated to 2oz. But it’s pretty much the “broomstick” you said you didn’t want. The 7’1” Tatula heavy is pretty stout. I run 55lb braid and toss frogs on one, and usually have 20-25lb flouro and a 1/2oz jig and trailer on the other. I’ve honestly never felt like I needed more rod. Quote
Cbump Posted May 13, 2023 Author Posted May 13, 2023 yeah I don’t I need It. I just want It lol 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 13, 2023 Super User Posted May 13, 2023 Irod IRG754F Gen 3 7’5” is rated 1/2 to 2 oz and a good utility rod, P/F, jigs, frogs etc. Tom Quote
Super User Solution casts_by_fly Posted May 13, 2023 Super User Solution Posted May 13, 2023 Amistad extra heavy in the expert lineup. 1 Quote
Captain Phil Posted May 13, 2023 Posted May 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Cbump said: I don’t think that Rod is rated for over 2oz or long enough. It's rated to 1 1/2 oz. I have have never had the need to flip or pitch with anything heavier. I started flipping with an 8' Dee Thomas Flipping Stick. It was as stiff as a pool cue and I thought the extra length was an advantage. I discovered you don't need a long heavy rod to effectively flip and pitch. What you need is a sensitive light weight heavy action rod you can fish comfortably for long periods of time. Shimano Carbon Monocoque rods are a miracle in light weight and sensitivity. As far as I am concerned, the ZDC72MH-GA is as good as it gets. The good news is we have so many great rods to choose from. 3 Quote
Super User ATA Posted May 13, 2023 Super User Posted May 13, 2023 I am in SoCal an I think we fish same condition, After asking lots of guys here I bought the Dobyns 766 Flipin*up to 2.5oz). I think you cant find anything in that range of price with that quality for the job, I am pairing that with Curado 150 size(151 DC). And I'll do 60lb Maxquatro all the way. I'll add flour leader 20lb test FC100 if I want to jig with it. 1 Quote
FL_Angler Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 I have both the 765FLIP and 766FLIP. Both are great. 765 I like for flipping with 3/8-3/4 oz weights and the 766 I prefer for punching mats with 1.5 oz. Unfortunately I don’t have any experience with any other flipping rods. I think you’ll be really happy with the Dobyn’s. 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted May 14, 2023 Super User Posted May 14, 2023 At 2 ozs you're looking at a Falcon Cara CC-7-176 Dragger II 7' 6" Heavy Fast 3/8-2 oz 1 Quote
Cbump Posted May 14, 2023 Author Posted May 14, 2023 In think I’m going to go with the Expert Amistad XH. Thanks all! 1 Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted May 14, 2023 Super User Posted May 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, Catt said: At 2 ozs you're looking at a Falcon Cara CC-7-176 Dragger II 7' 6" Heavy Fast 3/8-2 oz at 2 oz total the regular amistad in the expert is just fine also. I will throw it with up to 3 with an arig but that’s pushing its limit. It’s great in that 1/2-1 oz weight range (plus bait). 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted May 14, 2023 Super User Posted May 14, 2023 @casts_by_fly 2 oz & above in my opinion is a punch rod which is totally different from a pitching rod. 1 Quote
Cbump Posted May 14, 2023 Author Posted May 14, 2023 I agree, I worded It wrong. Most “punch” rods are 7’11-8’ long and that’s too much for me. That 7’4” Amistad XH is the ticket I think. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted May 14, 2023 Super User Posted May 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Cbump said: I agree, I worded It wrong. Most “punch” rods are 7’11-8’ long and that’s too much for me. That 7’4” Amistad XH is the ticket I think. So you're pitching or punching? What kind of cover? Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted May 14, 2023 Super User Posted May 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Catt said: @casts_by_fly 2 oz & above in my opinion is a punch rod which is totally different from a pitching rod. completely agree with you. Where I am, I never need a full 2oz myself and that’s a lot. But, who am I to judge. I just give the man what he asked for. 2 Quote
Cbump Posted May 14, 2023 Author Posted May 14, 2023 56 minutes ago, Catt said: So you're pitching or punching? What kind of cover? I’m collecting rods lol 1 2 Quote
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