Shimano Stradic 2500HG-K Anti-Reverse?

[RipHair]

I ended up taking the whole reel apart to clean it before the season starts and noticed after putting it all together that my antireverse doesn't work. And to be honest, I don't even remember if this darned reel had it in the first place. There's certainly no anti-reverse switch that I can see so it's not that. Under the spool there is a clutch and I'm not sure if that's just the drag clutch or also anti-reverse (I didn't open it up).

 

Trying to search online about this reel, I'm getting mixed hits saying there and some saying there might not be... Figured someone here might have more experience with spinning reels and can chime in. It's my only spinning reel, rest are baitcasters.

 

PS: use a good surface or even baking tray with a lip, can't tell you how many parts I thought I lost and was about to order replacements only to find them randomly through the apartment - found one part last night on my kitchen floor!

[MN Fisher]

The reel no longer has the switch, but the anti-reverse still exists...you just can't turn it off to back-reel anymore.

 

Sounds like the AR clutch was re-installed improperly, or you got too much grease/oil on it.

 

The drag stack is on top of the spool - the AR clutch/bearing is inside the body.

 

[MickD]

1 hour ago, RipHair said:

only to find them randomly through the apartment

Might want to consider not taking reels apart past the first "layer."  Simply use them, lube through ports or externally, limit how far you get into them, and I think you'll have much more success.  I haven't taken a reel totally apart in years and all of mine, BC, spin, and fly, work just fine.  

[RipHair]

31 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

The reel no longer has the switch, but the anti-reverse still exists...you just can't turn it off to back-reel anymore.

 

Sounds like the AR clutch was re-installed improperly, or you got too much grease/oil on it.

 

The drag stack is on top of the spool - the AR clutch/bearing is inside the body.

 

Thanks a lot. I think I know the part you are talking about - the diagram calls it the rolling clutch assembly. I cleaned my desk a bit and found a white plastic piece I remember being attach somewhere around that assembly. Almost managed to find a couple more washers (really small and thin ones, maybe just spacers?). Going to take it back apart and see if I can get my AR going again.

[RipHair]

Got'er working again. It was the roller clutch inner, I had it upside down so it wasn't making contact with the pins. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

 

As for that white piece or those washer/spacers, Lord only knows from where or from which reel it came from...

[MN Fisher]

5 minutes ago, RipHair said:

As for that white piece or those washer/spacers, Lord only knows from where or from which reel it came from...

10:1 - it's a spacer for the spool. If your line is going on the spool un-even...top heavy (spooled line is thicker at the top than the bottom ), putting a spacer under the spool will help to correct it

...if it's bottom heavy, remove a spacer.

[MickD]

Doesn't the reel documentation have a schematic that shows all the parts?  I can assure you that every single part has a function.  

 

I think the risks of screwing up a very complex device like a current cast or spin reel far outweigh the advantages of taking them completely apart.  For most of us.  The only time that is appropriate, IMHO, is when they have been submerged.  In that case, I'll leave it to the experts.

[RipHair]

1 hour ago, MickD said:

Doesn't the reel documentation have a schematic that shows all the parts?  I can assure you that every single part has a function.  

 

I think the risks of screwing up a very complex device like a current cast or spin reel far outweigh the advantages of taking them completely apart.  For most of us.  The only time that is appropriate, IMHO, is when they have been submerged.  In that case, I'll leave it to the experts.

 

I've always thought the schematics could be found easily only but for some reason this particular model "Shimano Stradic 2500 HG-K" I can't find anywhere, there is an HG-FK and other variants but I'm not sure if they're the exact same. Same went for my Abu Garcia Revo STX. I think going forward I will keep the schematics that came with the reels or scan them.

 

You're probably right regarding reel maintenance. I have a couple of reels that I never maintained that are over 8 years old and don't appear to be very smooth. I'm going to gift them to some family members and figured I could try my hands at some deep cleaning to hopefully give them another 5+ years.

 

The last reel I did last night I followed your advice and just did the minimum maintenance required without issue ?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Assuming you didn’t lose a part, chances are the AR sleeve is upside down fat end faces up toward the spool. If you can’t get it send it in at your convenience. 

[RipHair]

1 minute ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Assuming you didn’t lose a part, chances are the AR sleeve is upside down fat end faces up toward the spool. If you can’t get it send it in at your convenience. 

That was exactly it!

[MN Fisher]

1 hour ago, RipHair said:

I think going forward I will keep the schematics that came with the reels or scan them.

I do both - scan them, then stash them away in a file in my drawer.

 

Anything that comes with a manual or even a sheet gets saved.

[RipHair]

If my schematic is correct, it looks like the white piece is the "Bail Trip Strike" which apparently is: This bail trip strike is an original part from Shimano. The plastic component is fastened to the fishing reel body. This component is designed to lock the bail and strike once the bait is taken by the fish. The bail trip strike is sold individually. A screwdriver is necessary in making the repair.

 

Never new this was a thing or how to use it or even if it's something I need... Anyone have any ideas?

 

19802 in the diagram.

 

[throttleplate]

[RipHair]

3 hours ago, RipHair said:

If my schematic is correct, it looks like the white piece is the "Bail Trip Strike" which apparently is: This bail trip strike is an original part from Shimano. The plastic component is fastened to the fishing reel body. This component is designed to lock the bail and strike once the bait is taken by the fish. The bail trip strike is sold individually. A screwdriver is necessary in making the repair.

 

Never new this was a thing or how to use it or even if it's something I need... Anyone have any ideas?

 

19802 in the diagram.

 

If anyone's curious, the Bail Trip Strike is the piece on this reel that will auto-flip the bail when you reel. Got it back on and she's now good as new.

[MickD]

20 hours ago, RipHair said:

I cleaned my desk a bit and found a white jjplastic piece I remember being attach somewhere around that assembly.

I just can't resist, forgive me.  But have you considered taking your reels apart on the lawn?  ?

[RipHair]

6 minutes ago, MickD said:

I just can't resist, forgive me.  But have you considered taking your reels apart on the lawn?  ?

At my rate I might as well take them apart in outer space - at least they'd have a constant trajectory! ?

 

That said, I think I'm done with taking these apart and got my kick. Too afraid to do the same on my higher end reels...