Super User Darth-Baiter Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 i just listened to a podcast about profanity. the history, the developement, the transition of the use in common language. it was super interesting. i am 0% offended by it. not if it isnt directed at me directly..or my loved ones. i rarely use it in anger if ever, but i have been known to sprinkle it throughout a conversation for..."color". i know when not to use it, like last week's supervisor meeting. but one time, i could have really used a bomb from the F-word. hahah.. it is amazing the history of the process. why it is called a "swear" word. now, less so. it's just profanity. i'm just old enough to kinda remember it showing up in movie scripts. you? 1 Quote
Eric 26 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 @Darth-Baiter if you don’t mind can you share the podcast? I drive a truck and the radio gets quite repetitive. Thanks Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 It’s funny now to watch the old movies and hear the bad gangster type villains using words like “dang” and “heck”. Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted May 4, 2023 Author Super User Posted May 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Eric 26 said: @Darth-Baiter if you don’t mind can you share the podcast? I drive a truck and the radio gets quite repetitive. Thanks PM'd it to you. 1 Quote
Super User GaryH Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 “Profanity is a weak minds way of expressing itself” Little home town restaurant I used to visit had a big sign with that printed on it. 4 1 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted May 4, 2023 Author Super User Posted May 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, GaryH said: “Profanity is a weak minds way of expressing itself” Little home town restaurant I used to visit had a big sign with that printed on it. seen that exact quote in many flavors. i seen it expressed with Sarcasm. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, GaryH said: “Profanity is a weak minds way of expressing itself” Little home town restaurant I used to visit had a big sign with that printed on it. Or it could be a sign of lack of intelligence and cognitive ability as well. Many studies indicate a link to cursing and higher use of normal vocabulary and higher brain functioning. Words have meaning because we gave them meaning and how those words are used are what we were told them to be. 1 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted May 4, 2023 Author Super User Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, flyfisher said: Or it could be a sign of lack of intelligence and cognitive ability as well. Many studies indicate a link to cursing and higher use of normal vocabulary and higher brain functioning. Words have meaning because we gave them meaning and how those words are used are what we were told them to be. i can see that. but the podcast was more interesting. back in the biblical days, it was about..well, religion. thats why it is called "swearing". now, not so much...it is about bodily functions. it was a cool podcast discussion. profanity is still a word. someone gave meaning to it. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 37 minutes ago, flyfisher said: Or it could be a sign of lack of intelligence and cognitive ability as well. Many studies indicate a link to cursing and higher use of normal vocabulary and higher brain functioning. Words have meaning because we gave them meaning and how those words are used are what we were told them to be. There are probably more studies showing cursing linked to higher intelligence than lower. Lower intelligence people cursing is a stereotype. 3 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted May 4, 2023 Author Super User Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, deaknh03 said: There are probably more studies showing cursing linked to higher intelligence than lower. Lower intelligence people cursing is a stereotype. good point. i had a professor sprinkle in an emphasis once. caught me off guard, but it drove the point home..and i remembered it. heck, i still remember it. Quote
newriverfisherman1953 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 I guess I don’t see the point to using bad language. Probably a habit. A bad habit. 4 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted May 4, 2023 Global Moderator Posted May 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, deaknh03 said: There are probably more studies showing cursing linked to higher intelligence than lower. Lower intelligence people cursing is a stereotype. Speaking of stereotypes, Boston and Philly fans chime in to defend profanity 3 2 Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, newriverfisherman1953 said: I guess I don’t see the point to using bad language. Probably a habit. A bad habit. I do use profanity occasionally but it’s usually “for effect”. However I am around people every day who swear out of habit and don’t even know they are doing it. I’m talking the F-word in EVERY sentence kind of habit. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Speaking of stereotypes, Boston and Philly fans chime in to defend profanity Yup and TN residents not having high enough cognitive ability to understand what is being said here either. 1 3 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted May 4, 2023 Global Moderator Posted May 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, flyfisher said: Yup and TN residents not having high enough cognitive ability to understand what is being said here either. I can cipher it once I get time enough to take my shoes off 4 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: I can cipher it once I get time enough to take my shoes off wow another stereotype blown.....you wear shoes too???? ????? 6 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted May 4, 2023 Super User Posted May 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, flyfisher said: Yup and TN residents not having high enough cognitive ability to understand what is being said here either. It’s bad enough when you use the Lord’s name in vain. It’s taking it to another level when you do it in God’s Country. ? 2 1 Quote
Kirtley Howe Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, Steveo-1969 said: I do use profanity occasionally but it’s usually “for effect”. However I am around people every day who swear out of habit and don’t even know they are doing it. I’m talking the F-word in EVERY sentence kind of habit. Our daughter in law is from the French speaking region of Canada. Riviere Du Loup to be exact. She is fluent in both English and French. And she uses the F work like a sailor. At first we were somewhat shocked by this. Then we visited her area of Canada and found that just about everyone used the F word without much concern. In her area that word is used so much that almost no one is offended by it, and the actual meaning of the word is not really thought about at all...it is just used for emphasis or an exclamation of surprise, much like many Americans use the word "Crap". Different culture I guess. She has learned that where we live it is considered vulgar and/or offensive, and "tones it down" a lot when she is here. 2 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted May 4, 2023 Author Super User Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Kirtley Howe said: Our daughter in law is from the French speaking region of Canada. Riviere Du Loup to be exact. She is fluent in both English and French. And she uses the F work like a sailor. At first we were somewhat shocked by this. Then we visited her area of Canada and found that just about everyone used the F word without much concern. In her area that word is used so much that almost no one is offended by it, and the actual meaning of the word is not really thought about at all...it is just used for emphasis or an exclamation of surprise, much like many Americans use the word "Crap". Different culture I guess. She has learned that where we live it is considered vulgar and/or offensive, and "tones it down" a lot when she is here. i was with some dude from the UK. he dropped the C word like it was nothing..i was like...whoa...hahahha.. i think it means something less over there. it was kinda funny. 1 Quote
Eric 26 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: i was with some dude from the UK. he dropped the C word like it was nothing..i was like...whoa...hahahha.. i think it means something less over there. it was kinda funny. I’ve worked construction my whole adult life and when I worked for one of the largest construction companies in Chicago one of my superintendents was from Ireland. His then 7-9ish year old daughter was visiting the job one day and he dropped the C-word like it was going out of style, when we were done talking I had to ask my Irish work partner about this who informed me it doesn’t have the same meaning back home as it does here. In fact one of my first interactions with the superintendent ended with him telling me and my work partner to “now get back to work you blanking blanks” I just figured he didn’t like me? 1 2 Quote
Fallser Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 I was raised Catholic. Went to a Catholic grade school and high school. I didn't even curse, let alone use the "F-word" and there wasn't much profanity used in my house.. Then I joined the Navy in the late 60's. When I got out almost every other word was the "F-word". I really had to concentrate to keep from dropping it in front of my parents. After I finished college I went to work at the DOD supply center in South Philadelphia where I worked a bunch of women who were from South Philly. Get into a conversation with some of them and it was sprinkled with the F-word. More impressive they could say it in English and Italian. Maybe that's what my grandfather was muttering when he got ticked off. My friend who grew up in rural Ohio. She uses it about as often as I do in our conversations. I worked at the college radio station when I was an undergraduate in NW Tennessee back in the 70's. I played a Jefferson Airplane cut which I hadn't really listened to an one of the lines was "Up against the wall, up against the wall motherf***er. I kept waiting for the campus police to come in and shut me down. Still these days it's lost it's shock value. I expect to here at some point most conversations. 1 Quote
Eric 26 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 @Fallser Although I wasn’t raised Catholic and didn’t join the service when my older brother came home from the service and said “can someone pass the blanking salt please” my older sister and I weren’t sure if my dad was going to kill him or not. To tell you the truth dinner conversation was a lot more interesting from that day forward ? Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted May 4, 2023 Author Super User Posted May 4, 2023 mentioned above. "using the Lord's name in Vain"....that's when it was called swearing. or coined "swearing". now it is just garden variety cussing. bodily functions. stuff that comes out of our body, or stuff we do with the body. hahaha..way less about the Almighty. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted May 4, 2023 Global Moderator Posted May 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, Fallser said: I was raised Catholic. Went to a Catholic grade school and high school. I didn't even curse, let alone use the "F-word" and there wasn't much profanity used in my house.. Then I joined the Navy in the late 60's. When I got out almost every other word was the "F-word". I really had to concentrate to keep from dropping it in front of my parents. After I finished college I went to work at the DOD supply center in South Philadelphia where I worked a bunch of women who were from South Philly. Get into a conversation with some of them and it was sprinkled with the F-word. More impressive they could say it in English and Italian. Maybe that's what my grandfather was muttering when he got ticked off. My friend who grew up in rural Ohio. She uses it about as often as I do in our conversations. I worked at the college radio station when I was an undergraduate in NW Tennessee back in the 70's. I played a Jefferson Airplane cut which I hadn't really listened to an one of the lines was "Up against the wall, up against the wall motherf***er. I kept waiting for the campus police to come in and shut me down. Still these days it's lost it's shock value. I expect to here at some point most conversations. My brother lives in south Philly, it’s always interesting taking our southern mother steeped in manners and politeness to visit haha 4 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Right or wrong I cuss like a drunken sailor unless I am in a professional setting. I’ve always wondered how you can use a word and the synonym of that word could be completely wrong or offensive. Obviously, degrading slang words are something different. I am purely going on if you would go along the lines of screw this over f word this. Maybe I am just less intelligent to know any better. Quote
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